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Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:57 pm

Gary Massin-Ball wrote: Here are some pics of my set up!

You know, It would have been way easier to center mount the steering box and would accomplish almost the same thing. The main problem I see with that set-up is bump steer when it articulates..... Kinda like a TTB Ford front end.......

Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:55 pm

Ya that's one of the scenarios I went through in my head before I drilled the tie rod to try it. I did a simple test and just drilled the rod without reinforcing and found it worked great even through woops and max articulation. I ended up breaking the test rod that day on the bottom of a large hill I hit too hard!

The set up in the pics was just a reinforced stock rod. I used angle iron tacked to either side leaving room for the tie rod end to go thru.

This set up pictured has three days of hard duning at Florence and no breakage, no bent tie rods, no bent tie rod ends, no tires de rimmed.

There is very little toe change from full droop to full compression and it cost me about 5 bucks!

My buddy was worried about ackermann but it steers fine on the sand and on the pavement.
Gary
P.S. my avater is day 2 of florence testing!

Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:54 pm

All the engineering was in my head for about 6 months. It only took 5 mins to modify and adapt the first test set up and maybe 20 mins total to make the final set up in the pics. all in all it.s rack and pinion performance on a stock budget!

Try it you'll like it!
Gary.

Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:24 am

Just use a stock steering box and use it in the center.

Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:53 am

Thats a great set up as well! I have adjusters in my beam though so I had to go a different, and as it turned out, simpler route.

You must have had to make your tie rods shorter, new mount for the intermediate steering bearing and fab up the universal joints and a new mount for the damper.

I like it! and that's one of the scenarios I went thru in my head. I just have limited resources as far as fabbing and had to think around all the fab work. The most complicated thing for me was getting the angle iron tacked to the right tie rod/draglink.
Gary.

Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:14 pm

I have a stock steering box in the middle of the beam with same length tierods

Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:06 pm

did you modify the pitman arm at all or is it still factory?

Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:57 am

We modify my pitman arm.

Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:40 am

HamburgerBrad wrote: did you modify the pitman arm at all or is it still factory?

When I did mine, I just left it stock. There wasn't enough differance to make Me want to change it.

Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:20 pm

I really like this idea. you could probably have an awesome set up for dirt cheep by making a hybrid standard and super steering set up.

The super uses a drag link and idler arm. The drag link has the tapers for the tie rod ends near the center. While they are not quite as close together as a center rack, it places them much closer to the center than hooking up at both steering box pit arms.

here is that part that you would want.

This could be mounted between two steering boxes, or you could fab up a mount for the super idler arm.

Now you will have tie rods almost as long as those on a rack and pinion set up.

What do you guys think?

Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:27 am

I'm thinkin I have to pull that super out of the scrap pile and pillage some parts for my rail!