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Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:15 pm

My 70 deluxe is riding high in the front end. It rides higher than my buddies' bay windows' I am using Gr2 shocks up front and Gas a just in the rear. Could the GR2's be pushing the front end up? Is there a better shock to use. Thanks.

Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:34 pm

are your top rubber bump stops in front almost resting on the cups?

-that's how mine are. I've talked to a lot of people about it, taken it to shops that specialize in busses, and could never get an answer. It wasn't the shocks as I've had 3 sets of different ones in there. I've noticed this on some other busses also, kinda like rear end sag, "front end lift"?

Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:55 pm

microbuser wrote: My 70 deluxe is riding high in the front end.

It could have to do with your close proximity to "the square"...or "redwood park". Everything seems to be "riding high" around there... :wink:

it's an Arcata yoke

Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:03 pm

jejejeje
sure nuff, may be from all that smoke the 7 passengers are constantly puffing :) Humboldt!

Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:04 pm

It seems the way to raise a bus in front is to drill the welds and turn the thing that holds the bundle of spring leaves, top and bottom, then re-weld, the torsion arms thusly angling more downward.

The guys at the bus lab in berkley said I must have had a "modified leaf pack".

I got new leaves. 1 of the leaves in the old pack was actually cracked.

The new pack, being uncracked actually made it higher.

I have looked at the position of the torsion arms of busses that appear to "sit well" and they are right in the middle of the upper and lower snubbers.

images of front end lift
a bit here

and here

this one looks only a little high in front, but maybe up a corse notch in back. I did that to mine for a while; not so good for cv joints.

kinda grey, ridin' the line... no it's got it

that is some gap!

This bus looks to be very well adjusted stock-like. wow is that a gravel guard?

Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:20 am

So am I the only one with a bay with front end sag? I can actually move it through the travel of the suspension by grabbing the bullbar with one hand. Needless to say the ride height and ride quality on the move is interesting.

Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:23 am

RatCamper wrote: So am I the only one with a bay with front end sag? I can actually move it through the travel of the suspension by grabbing the bullbar with one hand. Needless to say the ride height and ride quality on the move is interesting.

Sounds like someone pulled a leaf or two. Or they're cracked. Peace!

Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:16 am

man, i must be on everyone's ignore list :roll:

Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:29 am

I hear ya Nathan, :lol:

Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:24 pm

I think it's a combination of people not being sure and mention being made somewhere that the correct position is halfway.

Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:27 pm

Perhaps the rear is sagging? That is failly common.

Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:35 pm

I've solved my problem, at least aesthetically, by lowering it in the front by 2.5 inches using drop spindles. It drives fine, I guess. It's very necessary to have the upper snubber in for me. :-)

If I had to do over again, I'd have just got a different beam off 1 that sat right.

Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:48 pm

I'm thinking broken leaves too. Now if only I could figure out where to get a replacement set. I'm tempted to do that and fit a height adjuster setup while I'm at it. I want my bay to be higher! Well, at least at the front. Might be able to go up a couple of fine splines at the back but it already sits pretty high.

Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:40 pm

Hey, This is my ride! It sits high. I don't know why.I am sure the rear end is sagging. In this photo the front sway bar was shot and broke in 2 shortly there after. I have since put the larger sway bar and it still sits high. I doubt the PO modified any thing as the rest of the bus is stock.

Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:01 pm

you should re-evaluate your busses with people sitting in the front. That may change your oppinions a bit.

Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:06 pm

No, that's high for sure. Mine was just like. Another 72. :-) I've seen 72's that sit well though.

The torsion arm shouldn't rest against the upper snubber no matter how light the front is. Mine sits about perfect with the front lowered the 2.5", just a bit higher than the back when I'm not in it.

Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:09 pm

too high especially with the spare tire weight forward. Get along a bus that looks right and compare placement of the grub screw etc to see if it is just in the torsion arms or somewhere else. Ignore the rear for now. If everything looks right, make sure you don't have high pressure gas shocks instead of the low pressure ones you are supposed to have. If you want, you can even pull the shocks and see if that changes the ride height.