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Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:25 pm

Hi. i've been doing some reasearch for a while now trying to piece together a disc brake set-up for my 69 baja.

I've found the drilled rotors i want, the hoses, and everything. but i'm stuck on weather or not to use the stock ghia calipers, or the wilwood clone calipers. with the stock ghia calipers, cip1 sells the brackets for use with them. but even tho they sell the wilwood clone caliper, they don't sell the brackets for them. Does anyone sell just the brackets for the wilwood calipers (or clones), for use with VW's? CIP1 sells the brackets for rear, balljoint, linkpin and super beetles. i'd love to find them for the willwood calipers, because i want to eventually use wilwod calipers on my super as well. thanks

-mike

Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:25 pm

I have the whole ghia setup on the front, have run them for years on a stock bug on the street. Night and day difference. Without upgrading the rears to much for the front in the dirt.

Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:22 pm

Well, i'll go with the ghia set-up if all else fails. I just love how sexy the wilwood clones look. On the rear i have chrysler town and country calipers, with vented rotors, on a type 3 drum hub. i'll go with the ghia calipers if nessesacry, but i really want the wilwood clones. do they even make the brakets for the clones, for VW? i've seen the kits, but would rather piece together my own kit, to get exactly what i want (drilled, slotted rotors, SS braided brake hoses, etc.). not to mention that i don't dump $800 in one shot, versus slowly over time.

Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:20 pm

BugMan114 wrote: On the rear i have chrysler town and country calipers, with vented rotors, on a type 3 drum hub.

More details on this please. What year town and country, what rotors, brackets, etc.

Thanks in advance

Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:30 pm

hahaha, i knew someone would ask me about this, lol. i haven't figured out what the rotors are, but they are 5 lug, but big enough inside, so that type 3 hubs fit inside. they are vented (i think .975 inch wide). the bracket is simply a piece of 3/8's inch steel plate cut and welded on the end of the trailing arm. the calipers are from a 1980 chrysler town and country (other years will work). The set-up was on my rail, and came like that. really beefy set-up, and very simple to recreate, as long as you can find some type 3 hubs, and a chunk of 3/8 inch steel, lol. the rest can be found at advance auto. Here are some pics:

And here's the bracket. pretty simple

Since type 3 hubs are hard to find, I would think that if you had access to a lathe, you could simply turn down a four lug drum, and just make one of these hubs yourself.

And as far as the rotr go. i'm not sure how to measure the bolt pattern to figure it out, but it seems the holes, even tho they are five lug, have the same space apart as the four lug, because one of the holes line up perfectly, so only three other holes were drilled in the rotor, as the 4th lined up. not sure if that helps any.

So does anyone know where to find wilwood brackets. i've searched high ans low on google, and can't find anything.

Thanks

Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:16 pm

BugMan114 wrote:
And as far as the rotr go. i'm not sure how to measure the bolt pattern to figure it out, but it seems the holes, even tho they are five lug, have the same space apart as the four lug, because one of the holes line up perfectly, so only three other holes were drilled in the rotor, as the 4th lined up. not sure if that helps any.Thanks

Back in the day when I was building street cars... I remember when I was converting from 4 lug to cookie cutters (porsche 5x130)one of the stock 4 lug holes was used

Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:21 pm

STOICH wrote: BugMan114 wrote:
And as far as the rotr go. i'm not sure how to measure the bolt pattern to figure it out, but it seems the holes, even tho they are five lug, have the same space apart as the four lug, because one of the holes line up perfectly, so only three other holes were drilled in the rotor, as the 4th lined up. not sure if that helps any.Thanks

Back in the day when I was building street cars... I remember when I was converting from 4 lug to cookie cutters (porsche 5x130)one of the stock 4 lug holes was used

even better yet was the 5x205 conversion to 4 lug, so that the 5x130 convrsion could be made :P

Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:59 am

hmm. so it might be a porsche rotor then? if so what rotor (944, 911, etc.)? I know almost nothing about porsche's. The rotors i have are really bad. there is hardly any meat on them, so i'll definately need new ones. i'll see if i can find a set somewhere to compare to. thanks
-Mike

Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:16 pm

If you turned down a 4 lug drum you can use 914 Prsche rotors (autohausaz.com). I used the t-3 hubs since I already had them. I found new 1996 Audi A-4 rear calipers for $55 each that use upswept E brake cables. (Jetta, GTI Passat and some Fords use the same calipers but the cables go under the trailing arms) I can lock up 33 x 12.50 tires with them. I made caliper brakets from 3/8" thick steel.