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Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:01 pm

schunacher wrote: Emeritusx wrote: Got mine today... 3 week turn around time
Pearl White.. Damn...
Emeritusx, would you mind sharing your body id number? I'd like to reinforce the info that the body number can reflect the month before the chassis date.

I am not sure what you mean... Where is the body number? the vin is in the pic, 216 000 373

Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:56 pm

rustyinms wrote: VWAdam wrote: That or maybe the engine your car blew and the owner bought a good engine from say a wrecked car (possibly a low mileage '62) in a junkyard and put it in.

Good point. I'm realizing that it's more likely not the original engine. No big deal. I'm trying to stay as true to the car as I can for my repair/refurbishment, and just want to learn as much as possible. I'm amazed that we have as much information available as we do. (TheSamba is a great resource.) I can think of some other vehicle makes/models with a fraction of the production history and virtually no clear information whatsoever.

The incomplete and sometimes peculiar histories of these cars are part of their appeal, I think. That's why I ordered the birth certificate. Part of the need to document and categorize. It's like a 47-year-old detective story.

Yeah, tell me about it :lol: I love all original cars, and my 64 Bus is cool since I know it's history to the original owner, but my 59 Beetle on the other hand, it's so pieced together from so many other cars. It's cool too, like it's defied the odds. Since it's a Euro car, I was really happy to know where it was sent to originally. All I know is that and that it ended up here sometime before 1985. How and why it made it from Freiburg, Germany to Alabama I'll probably never know. I wonder where all that car has been. It's part of the appeal to me knowing these things have been around so long, but I digress :lol:

Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:20 am

rustyinms wrote: EverettB wrote: If you think the engine is still fairly original, you could check the dates on the coil and generator and distributor to see if they fit the production date of the engine or of the car itself. They are usually a month or 2 behind the production date of the car.

Date coding of parts thread
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=279505

Excellent. Thanks. And just to clarify - they didn't say it "wasn't original", only that "they couldn't confirm it was original." I get what you're saying about the engine being a month or so off from the body/chassis VIN. Volkswagen would not have had a stockpile of engines where one sat unused for a year, right?l
I think that's the same thing but in their wording but I don't know that for sure.

Sat May 01, 2010 7:21 am

Does anyone have an email address I could use to request an update? I sent my Birth Cert. request on 29/03, and not heard anything.

I've replied to the email I received, but got a delivery failure...

Thanks

Sat May 01, 2010 11:56 am

coopersim wrote: Does anyone have an email address I could use to request an update? I sent my Birth Cert. request on 29/03, and not heard anything.

I've replied to the email I received, but got a delivery failure...

Thanks

Here are the two that I have:

urkunde@volkswagen-automuseum.de
and
shop@volkswagen-automuseum.de

Sun May 02, 2010 12:48 am

Oh dear! They are the two that I have written to and received delivery failures from....

Wed May 05, 2010 2:26 am

i just sent out for mine and it saide your order has ben completd befor i even got to put my payment in to them i recieved the email lol so after i finished filling the form out i e maild them and saide if thers any other info you need please let me know .havnt heard anything yet back so i guess all is good i just hope it has alot of info on it .acording to the original owner that lives in sandiego they had the bus since day one but on the m code plate it says it was shipd to new orleans so idont know if it was shipd to neworleans and they boght it ther and since moved to sandiego or if it was transported and sold in california .well eather way if it comes then il have something to put in a glass frame :D

Wed May 05, 2010 6:24 am

DonsvwS wrote: i just sent out for mine and it saide your order has ben completd befor i even got to put my payment in to them i recieved the email lol so after i finished filling the form out i e maild them and saide if thers any other info you need please let me know .havnt heard anything yet back so i guess all is good i just hope it has alot of info on it .acording to the original owner that lives in sandiego they had the bus since day one but on the m code plate it says it was shipd to new orleans so idont know if it was shipd to neworleans and they boght it ther and since moved to sandiego or if it was transported and sold in california .well eather way if it comes then il have something to put in a glass frame :D

The destination code is simply what port the car came through into the US. My '64 Bus came through New Orleans but was sold new in Mississippi. Typically VWs that came through New Orleans were sold in the southeast but not always.

Wed May 05, 2010 7:15 am

So.... I got the certificate today, and it's totally wrong!

1. Colour - states green, mine is white - and always has beem
2. Engine - states 1.2, mine is a 1.3 and always has been
3. Voltage - states 6volts, mine has always been 12v
4. Country of Destination - South Sweden, mine is RHD - and has always lived in the UK
5. Trim - states light grey or leatherette green, mins is black basket weave
6. Year of manufacter - 1956! Mine is a 1969!!!!!!!!

I've tried phoning and can't get thrugh, I've emailed and they bounce, what can I do?

Wed May 05, 2010 7:31 am

coopersim wrote: So.... I got the certificate today, and it's totally wrong!

1. Colour - states green, mine is white - and always has beem
2. Engine - states 1.2, mine is a 1.3 and always has been
3. Voltage - states 6volts, mine has always been 12v
4. Country of Destination - South Sweden, mine is RHD - and has always lived in the UK
5. Trim - states light grey or leatherette green, mins is black basket weave
6. Year of manufacter - 1956! Mine is a 1969!!!!!!!!

I've tried phoning and can't get thrugh, I've emailed and they bounce, what can I do?

Sounds like you got someone elses certificate.

Wed May 12, 2010 10:12 am

coopersim wrote: So.... I got the certificate today, and it's totally wrong!

1. Colour - states green, mine is white - and always has beem
2. Engine - states 1.2, mine is a 1.3 and always has been
3. Voltage - states 6volts, mine has always been 12v
4. Country of Destination - South Sweden, mine is RHD - and has always lived in the UK
5. Trim - states light grey or leatherette green, mins is black basket weave
6. Year of manufacter - 1956! Mine is a 1969!!!!!!!!

I've tried phoning and can't get thrugh, I've emailed and they bounce, what can I do?

Here is the address I got in an email from them:

Bei Problemen mit dieser Zahlung wenden Sie sich bitte an den Händler unter
mailto:shop@volkswagen-automuseum.de oder antworten Sie auf diese E-Mail.

Also your credit card company can show you a number probably

Wed May 12, 2010 11:37 am

JUST GOT FINISHED ORDERING MY BC TODAY :D i GOOGLED ONE OF THE GERMAN PHRASES THAT LOKED LIKE "ISSUE NUMBER KREDITCARDE" AND IT SENT ME TO A GHIA BC THREAD THAT HAD TRANSLATIONS FOR ALL THE GERMAN PAYMENT INFO :lol: I DIDN'T CATCH THEIR NAME BUT APPRECIATE THEM TAKING TIME TO TRANSLATE FOR THE REST OF US! RECEIVED AN IMMEDIATE CONFIRMATION WITH AN E-MAIL ADDRESS: extern.christine.ferdinus@volkswagen.de.Weiter

Hope that does something for you!

Mon May 17, 2010 7:08 am

I asked for more detailed info on my BC and got a reply from this email address:

extern.roswitha.hendel@volkswagen.de

mail was signed by Gerolf Thienel from the AutoMuseum btw

Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:03 am

Right-i-o, where to start...

I've had my birth certificates for a while now but not taken much notice of them as neither of my busses were on the road, i just filed them away after having a quick look over them.

First thing i noticed was that it told me my March '55 11 window had the 'Extras/Options' code of 'M 083 Walkthrough cab', but it's not! I've given the bus a good going over with my beedy eye and unless volkswagen took it back and replaced it themselves it's always been a bench seat model.

Second up is they've mixed up the chassis number for my '54 Single Cab making at a 231 Kombi instead of a 261.
The number is 30 higher from mine so i'm guessing all the other info will be wrong too, bummer.

Lastly, they couldn't get the details of my lowlite Ghia as the 'micro fiche' is crumbling and illegible. Nothing they can do about that one i guess...

So, my question is, has anybody else had issues with their Birth Certificate and, if so, what did they/you do about it?

Cheers Anton

Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:56 am

M83 means something different for the early Buses. The 83 number was reused later for walk-throughs.

If they sent you the wrong information, I have seen people post that they contacted them to get a correction.

Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:22 pm

Thanks boss :D

Also, just for your records, it has both the following codes:
M 018, M 86 cannot be identified

Bus is a 211 vw Micro Bus, built on 19th March 1955, left factory on 23rd March 1955 destined for the good old US of A 8)

Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:12 pm

Thanks. Early non-barndoor, very cool.

M18 is probably sealed-beam headlights for North America. (My theory)

Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:06 pm

Does anyone know a way to get more information, like what dealer a car was sold at or a general area even?

It seems like there has to be some way to do it.

Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:44 am

5vert6 wrote: ...I think I wasted $48! BC says I have kombi, when in fact I have double door panel! ...I emailed VW to say that I think they gave me the wrong info....I got an email yesterday saying they are reviewing it. Hopefully they will get it right this time!

Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:24 pm

Ordered mine on Wednesday May 26, 2010 and....I'm still waiting....

I'm like a kid that ordered something from a cereal box and I'm checking the mail every single day (last couple of weeks) expecting something from Germany...

Another Samba member said when I first ordered it, "Not to hold my breath" and I have been...

I'll post a copy of the Certificate when it arrives...with my luck it's probably sitting in the mailbox right now...let me go check