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Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:29 pm

qwerty wrote: Regarding the cost in 1946 - my 46 was sold new end October 1946 for $650 at the US Armed Forces base near Frankfurt to a serviceman who's friend won the right to purchase it in a lottery (but didn't have the money). That's exactly right. The first VWs to be sold to private owners were actually sold to Americans! They were sold by lottery through the company PX, and I've seen the price of $650 mentioned in several sources.

Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:14 pm

qwerty wrote: Regarding the cost in 1946 - my 46 was sold new end October 1946 for $650 at the US Armed Forces base near Frankfurt to a serviceman who's friend won the right to purchase it in a lottery (but didn't have the money).
Thanks Mark for the info. For that price , I'll be able to put a down payment then finance the baalnce for one!
See you Saturday.

Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:21 pm

The interior.

Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:28 pm

Blue Baron wrote: johnshenry wrote: The split in the Henry Ford museum has a really bad paint job, orange peel everywhere, but is otherwise very correct and very nice (even the lower engine tin that I had to get a glimpse of!). The '49 Deluxe in the Henry Ford Museum was donated to the museum in the early eighties by Volkswagen of America when they learned the museum was seeking to add one.

I swear I thought it was a '50 or '51. I'll dig out some pics.....

Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:34 pm

p horvath wrote: mozart wrote:
did you happen to get a shot of the engine?

Here it is. Courtesy of the Nethercutt Museum.

Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:37 pm

mozart wrote: p horvath wrote: mozart wrote:
did you happen to get a shot of the engine?

Here it is. Courtesy of the Nethercutt Museum.

Pretty nice Ivan, thanks for getting the pic :-) Looks like they aren't afraid to share :-)

Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:53 pm

Rear bumper bracket insde the wheel well, not a speck of dust.
Even the bolts and washers are plated.
What is the meaning of "12.9" inscribed on the bolt?

Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:02 pm

mozart wrote: Rear bumper bracket insde the wheel well, not a speck of dust.
Even the bolts and washers are plated.
What is the meaning of "12.9" inscribed on the bolt?

Not a German bolt, it should be a Kamax, Rasche, Dorn etc.... Looks like they used a new bolt at the time...

Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:44 pm

i didn't catch what color it was.

Is it pearl gray ???

Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:55 pm

mozart wrote: Rear bumper bracket insde the wheel well, not a speck of dust.
Even the bolts and washers are plated.
What is the meaning of "12.9" inscribed on the bolt?

12.9 is likely a grade number. A bit of overkill for a fender bolt actually. Although for metric bolts it could be different. 8.8 is a fairly high grade with SAE bolts.

Looks like the fender flange was bead welded on on the lower portion.

Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:07 pm

johnshenry wrote: mozart wrote: Rear bumper bracket insde the wheel well, not a speck of dust.
Even the bolts and washers are plated.
What is the meaning of "12.9" inscribed on the bolt?

12.9 is likely a grade number. A bit of overkill for a fender bolt actually. Although for metric bolts it could be different. 8.8 is a fairly high grade with SAE bolts.

Looks like the fender flange was bead welded on on the lower portion.

8.8 is closest to a grade 5. I appears that the fender bolt is a later 8.8. Guess I'm not a stickler for correct bolts.

Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:18 pm

56OvalRHD wrote: mozart wrote: Rear bumper bracket insde the wheel well, not a speck of dust.
Even the bolts and washers are plated.
What is the meaning of "12.9" inscribed on the bolt?

Not a German bolt, it should be a Kamax, Rasche, Dorn etc.... Looks like they used a new bolt at the time...

I've seen that atom logo on British bolt heads from the '50s and '60s. It's easily conceivable, given the materiel shortages in 1946 Germany, UK-sourced fasteners were used to keep the production line open.

However, the bright plating suggests these bolts are of recent manufacture.

Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:37 am

mozart wrote: p horvath wrote: mozart wrote:
did you happen to get a shot of the engine?

Here it is. Courtesy of the Nethercutt Museum.

are those wire clips i see on the distributor? let the games begin.
also,what year had the summer/winter lever on the fan shroud?

Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:52 pm

p horvath wrote: mozart wrote: p horvath wrote: mozart wrote:
did you happen to get a shot of the engine?

Here it is. Courtesy of the Nethercutt Museum.

are those wire clips i see on the distributor? let the games begin.
also,what year had the summer/winter lever on the fan shroud?

Just as clean as the engine compartment.

Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:54 pm

mozart wrote:

Just as clean as the engine compartment.

Wow, correct early heater boxes!!

Too bad the distributor clips are wrong....... :wink:

Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:05 pm

Sealed beam headlight behind a clear glass?

Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:09 pm

p horvath wrote: mozart wrote: p horvath wrote: mozart wrote:
did you happen to get a shot of the engine?

Here it is. Courtesy of the Nethercutt Museum.

are those wire clips i see on the distributor? let the games begin.
also,what year had the summer/winter lever on the fan shroud?

Please educate me. Where is the summer/winter lever? What is the function of the device?

Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:34 pm

mozart wrote: p horvath wrote:

also,what year had the summer/winter lever on the fan shroud?

Please educate me. Where is the summer/winter lever? What is the function of the device?

Here is a Summer/Winter lever. It covers half of the fan intake in Winter setting to let the engine warm up faster. There is not one on the
1946 car in the pics.

Mike

Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:45 pm

kdf38@netzero.net wrote: mozart wrote: p horvath wrote:

also,what year had the summer/winter lever on the fan shroud?

Please educate me. Where is the summer/winter lever? What is the function of the device?

Here is a Summer/Winter lever. It covers half of the fan intake in Winter setting to let the engine warm up faster. There is not one on the
1946 car in the pics.

Mike

Oh, a "manual" air intake control.Thank you.

Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:06 pm

Is it essencially a pre-thermostat..thermostat?