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Cptn. Calzone Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:35 pm

Anyone have any feedback/knowelge about the camber compensator for split bus with rgbs? I have seen them around and see how in theory they would be a good thing, I need some real input .Thank you all.

Eric&Barb Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:20 pm

Would first invest in the right tires, shocks, and then anti-sway bar on the front axle. After that if you still need more would try the rear camber compensator.
Big problem with the RCCs is most are designed to bolt onto the transaxle where the side plate studs all too often get pulled out. Have found one vintage RCC that clamped onto the transaxle frame horns. Much nicer design!!

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=358596&highlight=camber+compensator

Plus lots more info through the "Search" feature for "Camber Compensator".

58deluxerag Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:35 pm

Have one on my Monster 15 window, works great.

Leo1 Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:53 am

Bought one a couple years ago from Bus Boys. The first time I drove up a circular highway onramp, it was clearly money well spent!



Leo

crofty Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:28 am

58deluxerag wrote: Have one on my Monster 15 window, works great.

X2

YOUBUGME2 Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:58 am

crofty wrote: 58deluxerag wrote: Have one on my Monster 15 window, works great.

X2

You have a monster 15 as well.. :lol:

crofty Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:09 am

YOUBUGME2 wrote: crofty wrote: 58deluxerag wrote: Have one on my Monster 15 window, works great.

X2

You have a monster 15 as well.. :lol:

I have one on my 65

cdennisg Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:56 am

I would engineer a way to mount it to the tranny horns rather than the trans. I have seen the bolts get boogered (as has been said) but they also put undo stress on the tranny mounts, as all of that force goes straight into the mounts when making a hard turn.

They do work well, though.

tomflies1 Sun May 23, 2010 11:15 am

I've been reading here that the positive camber on early buses is a common problem, but it seems some say to use an add-on camber compensator and others to adjust the torsion bars. I have a stock 65 21W, just finishing it up, but it looks pretty odd from behind. \ / Feels kinda squirrely, doesn't seem to track as straight as it should. New steering box, all new steering etc. Stock wheels and size tires. What should I try first? Ideas/suggestions?

EverettB Sun May 23, 2010 12:00 pm

The tires do sit a little bit that way normally at full stock height so it's not necessarily an issue.

The camber compensator won't change that, you have to adjust the torsion bars if you think it's off.

This thread has some information:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=389989&highlight=adjust+torsion

Notice I searched on "adjust torsion" above (words are highlighted in that thread) Searching on that in this section using the search screen will give you more topics.

splitpile Sun May 23, 2010 12:06 pm

tomflies1 wrote: I've been reading here that the positive camber on early buses is a common problem, but it seems some say to use an add-on camber compensator and others to adjust the torsion bars. I have a stock 65 21W, just finishing it up, but it looks pretty odd from behind. \ / Feels kinda squirrely, doesn't seem to track as straight as it should. New steering box, all new steering etc. Stock wheels and size tires. What should I try first? Ideas/suggestions?

4 wheel alignment check

RobzKombi Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:13 pm

Just purchased an Empi CC which will soon be installed on my DC and while searching for pictures of CC installed I ran into this photo,



Didn't realize it was possible to install a rear swaybar on our buses. What are your thoughts on this set up, good idea or overkill?

blackdog1999 Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:20 pm

RobzKombi wrote: Just purchased an Empi CC which will soon be installed on my DC and while searching for pictures of CC installed I ran into this photo,



Didn't realize it was possible to install a rear swaybar on our buses. What are your thoughts on this set up, good idea or overkill?

I would love to see pics of the (2nd) swaybar off of the Bus. I would run that setup on my Kemperink.

RobzKombi Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:25 pm

Quick search on the Cip1 site brought this up http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC%2DC10%2D4050

But that's for 68 and up buses, nothing for splits.

Clara Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:31 pm

I have an old EMPI camber compensator on my '61 and it works great.
I easily drove 10mph faster on a certain windy road without even realising it. I was pleasantly surprised.


natnmike58 Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:13 am

Good morning,

I am going to add camber compensator to a couple of type 2's. A 63 & a 66, both with RGB's and stock suspension. I have read as many threads as I can find, but still have a couple of questions.

Most of the CC's I see at various dealer sites state that their product fits type1 and Ghia. I have not seen any specifically for an early type 2. Here are a few links to some I have found.

http://www.socalautoparts.com/product_info.php/cam...ba17c4eb90

http://fisherbuggies.com/bugpack/camber-stop

http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=463

Does anyone have experience with any of these? Any other ideas or thoughts are welcome.

Thanks,

Mike

slow36hp Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:41 am

i believe they are all the same as the relationship between the parts and attachments are the same.

sub-hatchtim Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:47 am

I love my cc

Sniperx Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:09 pm

So what exactly do these do? I don't want to affect my ride height to much...I like it as tall as I can get.

I understand they make handling "better", but what is the process they are working on. They look like they keep the axles down...which is what they kinda want to do anyway. Is it just adding another spring basically?

Busryder Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:10 pm

slow36hp wrote: i believe they are all the same as the relationship between the parts and attachments are the same.

Please correct me if I am wrong.... but I do not believe this to be true.

Have a look at the differences between the CC's in the first two links the OP provided...


So Cal Imports' CC:


And, the ridiculously overpriced ($205 :? ), BugPack CC from Fisher Buggies:



In both images, you can see that the 'compensation bar' is bent/angled at an upward slant. From my understanding/experience, this angle produces an upward force on the axle tubes that will work in a bus that has a straight-axle trans. Notice the red urethane 'pads' that contact the tubes... I have this set-up on my Westy.

But in an RGB equipped bus, like Clara's awesome bus, The opposite forces are needed... as Clara's example illustrates, there are straps that hold the RGB tubes down, and the 'compensation bar' is not bent, but is straight instead:


In the OP's last link, the CB Camber Compensator has these same spec's, save for the mount at the transmission, (and is reasonably priced too.):
CB images are protected by copyright and I cannot post the example image, so just click this Link:
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=463

This is the one that I think would work for your application.... but again, I could be wrong on this whole thing. I am not an expert... so take this with a grain of salt.

But I too, love my CC. :D



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