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Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:43 am

This topic will attempt to cover the different splash pans for the various years of Buses. Any contributions welcome.

Wade also has some additional information at:
http://dropgates.com/y2y/pedalpans.html

Color for the pedal pan is grey. It's the VW grey primer color.

Barndoor:

Early style (55-60?):
Note flat area around steering box cutout.
For 55-57 the front lip where it bolts to the nose is also flat, later Buses had those areas pressed outward a bit, see later examples below:

Earlier pans (55-57?) have this highlighted area spot welded on - note this first pan shown was identified by a member as a 65-66 pan and is just highlighted for reference

Actual pan:

Mid style - exact year range unknown:
(Correct for 61-66(?), will correct as information is posted)
Note bump where master cylinder switch is located, this was possibly added when the change to push-terminal connections was made:

'67 style with dual master-cylinder cutout on rear:

Split Bus RHD:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=654645
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=654646

Others:
'68-'69:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=583444
'74:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=281952
'78:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=279807
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=279806

Mounting hardware:
10mm headed m6 bolts. Same bolts used on the generator tin to bolt to the fan shroud.
10mm headed coarse screws. Same screws used on the brake line mounting tabs.

http://www.oacdp.org/5867part/345.png
6x10 bolts - Quantity 8
6.3 x 13 self tapping bolts #29 - Quantity X
Why X? Maybe it varied year to year?

Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:59 am

awesome thread/post,

the early ones 55-57? are flat where they mount to the lower inner nose section,im not positive when this changed but the later ones were relief pressed on both the inner nose and splash pan

Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:14 am

hugheseum wrote: awesome thread/post,

the early ones 55-57? are flat where they mount to the lower inner nose section,im not positive when this changed but the later ones were relief pressed on both the inner nose and splash pan

Any pics of that(?), as it is what I am looking for.

Great thread BTW. I was thinking of suggesting something like it this AM after reading another post where the subject came up yet again.

Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:02 pm

hugheseum wrote: the early ones 55-57? are flat where they mount to the lower inner nose section,im not positive when this changed but the later ones were relief pressed on both the inner nose and splash pan
Oh? Pics would be great, I can add it.

I know I have heard people say that the very early pans (55-56?) have some parts that are spot-welded on, like they were made in multiple pieces.

Pics needed of that as well.

Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:10 pm

i have several different 55-58 buses here,i will see if i can see the inner nose panel change cut off (roughly) by comparing my inventory,i have big stack of early pedal pans but they are seriously buried,maybe someone else has some that are easy to access?

im going to guess the change is when the tailights changed in 57 as theres a bunch of little things that are new in the mid 57 buses

edit,your pics actually show the non relief pressed edge on the early pan....

Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:25 pm

great thread EB. I see evidence of splash pans on the front of my bus, is there any way to tell if they were OG ? I just ordered my Birth Ceritificate, will it be on there? Information about repops and their quality or lack thereof might be worthy of mention.

Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:46 pm

I believe they all came with one when new, and that there are no repro's being made.

Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:15 pm

mtb7001 wrote: great thread EB. I see evidence of splash pans on the front of my bus, is there any way to tell if they were OG ? I just ordered my Birth Ceritificate, will it be on there? Information about repops and their quality or lack thereof might be worthy of mention.
Yes, all Buses had a pedal pan as far as I know.

The only repop I know of is Gerson is reproducing the Barndoor pedal pan.
The 55-up ones pop up fairly frequently, there are a number of them for sale in the Bus classifieds right now.

Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:18 pm

Did they come in various colors over the years? Were they all the same color? Were any originally in colors coordinated to the paint codes?

Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:23 pm

nice! i have been interested in this info since i am in search of one for the 59 mango!

Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:17 pm

zozo wrote: Did they come in various colors over the years? Were they all the same color? Were any originally in colors coordinated to the paint codes?
My best guess is that they are all the VW grey primer. Various shades of grey though since that varies over the years.

Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:35 am

For those searching for the one year only 67 pan, I can confirm that the later pans are exactly the same pressing excepting for the MC cutout. If you want to "make" your 67 pan, I scribed these measurements directly onto another pan.

Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:21 pm

so mine should look like the 4 th picture in the 1st post?

Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:36 pm

There are some small subtle differences too that I think are somewhat unknown.
Greg, Clara, and I were looking at 5 or 6 different similar year range splash pans together
one evening and we picked out 3 or 4 small different things between them all...

Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:37 am

EverettB wrote: hugheseum wrote: the early ones 55-57? are flat where they mount to the lower inner nose section,im not positive when this changed but the later ones were relief pressed on both the inner nose and splash pan
Oh? Pics would be great, I can add it.

I know I have heard people say that the very early pans (55-56?) have some parts that are spot-welded on, like they were made in multiple pieces.

Pics needed of that as well.

I have some pics of what you guys are talking about. If youd like em better i can get em, just need some time..LOL.
My bus is late july early august 57 and has the pressed bumps in the front inner valance. I was just PMing lind about this cause i dont know if the pan i have is correct or not. The pan has the flat steering box area, but has bumps in the back for push pin brake switch, and my bus would have had a screw terminal brake switch. It also has the 3 pressings on the front edge of the pan, to coincide with the bumps i have on my inner valance. Its so the bolts go in at an angle upward. Easier to get tools onto, and pushes pan up into place as you tighten it.
One last oddity. It seems that on whatever bus this pan was for, the outer most 2 rear pan slots where they mount to the body, are further rearward than the 2 in the center, mainly just the driver rear. Whereas my bus has all 4 bolts straight acrossed the back edge. Once i worked it a tad, it fit perfect with a lil bit of spring load which is nice IMO, it wont rattle. :)

Pics:

Hope those help. Ev if you want take what you need, delete my post, whatever. :)
Ill be posting these in my buses thread anyways. That was my original intent. But then saw this post and i like to help add to the knowledge base so. :)

Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:22 am

Where does that little metal tab go into? And more importantly what is it for?

Great thread thanks. :wink:

Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:30 am

it should go in this notch in the frame

Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:48 am

Thanks Phil1957 especially for the photo I learn best with images:wink:

What is the last year frame for that notch or did they all have them?

phil1957 wrote: it should go in this notch in the frame

Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:27 am

for reference, my january 61 kombi has the earlier style pan, w/o the raised steering box area

Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:20 pm

This term needs to be added to the dictionary..LOL unless ea. time I go to look it up I mispell the word :lol: