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Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:06 pm

Didn't find it in a search... replacing fuel line, and adding in the copper solid line that goes from outside the firewall to the fuel pump. Does that run between the manifold and the engine or around the outside of the manifold? Having a devil of a time getting it in between the manifold and the engine, but it seems shaped to go that route...

Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:17 pm

I think it clips to the fan shroud with the two plug wires and then goes straight to the bottom of the pump. Sorta like this:

from the gallery (hopefully this is right):

Arthur

Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:30 pm

Not to rehash a topic that's been covered over and over, but I hope you know not to use solid copper as the fuel line? Use steel line, like the flexible brake line you can get at your FLAP.

Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:00 pm

Arthur; if I see that correctly its up and over the manifold, but under the plug wires?

Ollie, thanks for the tip. I have a copper line from WW. Searching I find a variety of opinion. But frankly, I don't see that metal fatigue is anything to worry about on this line; its got two soft connections on either end which'll take the fatigue strain...??

Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:54 pm

Your right and besides, copper looks so nice.

Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:57 pm

It's copper-plated steel. :)

Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:09 pm

Blow through that copper plated steel WW line and poke a coat hanger into it and I'll bet its plugged with the finest red sand. I'll also bet you can't clean it. I've tried with at least four of theirs' and all had that problem. It will ruin your fuel pump and carb if it is sandy. They are made in some freaky place that uses sand to prevent the walls from crimping when they are bent to shape. Then they let water get in and the sand rusts to the inner walls.

Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:14 am

Are you saying it's totally plugged or just has sand in it that could come loose?

That got me concerned since I have a WW fuel inlet line on my '63 so I went to check the fuel pump filter on my original dome-top fuel pump. I hadn't checked it in 3500 miles. There was some little flecks in the bowl but it looked more like tiny rust flakes from my gas tank (very likely) rather than sand.

I have another WW inlet line - 36hp style, new, never used. Blew through it and nothing came out. Ran a small piece of wire from each end, then blew and a few tiny red specks came out. Could be the sand.

Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:42 am

Don't know if the problem has been fixed but I quit trying with them. All are plugged with rust and fine red sand. A good used one is the best.

Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:32 am

It is really hard to find a good used line. May sound odd, as they came on every motor. But it is true.
On a used one I put a couple strands of wire in a drill and rotor rooter it to get rid of any rust in there.
Always check where it goes through the front tin for signs of metal against metal wear in case a PO had a faulty or missing grommet.

Some engines hold it to the side of the fan shroud with a clip that attaches under the screw that hold the fan shroud at the cylinder tin.
Some should clip at the plastic clip for the plug wires.

Rarely are they actually the correct shape where they meet the clip.
Anyone have a pic of what the line should look like? IIRC, it lies in a single plane. IE, if you put it on the ground it lies flat.

Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:36 am

BarryL wrote: Don't know if the problem has been fixed but I quit trying with them. All are plugged with rust and fine red sand.
They must have fixed this issue if they were plugged.

Clara wrote: Some engines ... should clip at the plastic clip for the plug wires.
I'd be interested in a photo of this arrangement as I have never seen that.

I have the metal clip that holds it to the side of the fan shroud on my '63 - that is nice.

Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:42 am

Here's one route. I have the original shroud clamp somewhere but they always crack. These Anchor Marine ones are the cat's meow. The OG shroud clamp had a type of thin fiber board between the pipe and the clamp.

Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:04 pm

I was just looking for the same subject last night . so after it goes around motor how does it get to the tank?

Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:56 pm

BarryL wrote: Here's one route. I have the original shroud clamp somewhere but they always crack. These Anchor Marine ones are the cat's meow. The OG shroud clamp had a type of thin fiber board between the pipe and the clamp.

Thanks, I always wondered why there was 3 slots there on some shrouds.

Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:21 pm

Found the original clip. The rubber insert has long gone; it was split lengthwise and had cast rings on each end to keep it snug. What's in there now is a piece of fuel line.

Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:04 pm

sventinker wrote: I was just looking for the same subject last night . so after it goes around motor how does it get to the tank?

Regular flexible fuel line to the tap on the bottom of the tank.

Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:11 pm

Stanagon wrote: sventinker wrote: I was just looking for the same subject last night . so after it goes around motor how does it get to the tank?

Regular flexible fuel line to the tap on the bottom of the tank.

so once the metal line rounds the fan shroud does it pass through the sheet metal under the tank then to a rubber line? or does the rubber hose meet the metal line behind the fan shroud? any one have any pics?

Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:37 pm

The metal line passes through the front tin on the engine, the piece that covers the top of the transmission, then goes into a rubber line that travels to the tank.

The rubber line is held in place above the transmission case by some clips.

Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:50 am

Thanks I get it now. its been so long since I have had mine together

Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:02 am

EverettB wrote: The metal line passes through the front tin on the engine, the piece that covers the top of the transmission, then goes into a rubber line that travels to the tank.

Don't forget the rubber grommet that protects the metal line as it goes through the front tin. Without it, the tin can saw over time through the metal line and set your ride on fire.