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Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:59 pm

vwcrazybus wrote: Yes, it should spring back! BUT you still should have spark when you pull the center wire from the distributor and hold it super close to a ground while cranking the engine over. What kind of distributor do you have? I have the stock 009 as far as i know.

Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:11 pm

009 on fuel injection, not stock.

Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:15 pm

vwcrazybus wrote: 009 on fuel injection, not stock. Maybe im thinking of my bug then, all i see on the distibuter is "Bosch Made in Germany" is the # hidden back where the vacuum advance bicuit deal is? Whatever i have i am almost positive its stock.

Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:17 pm

You got bus on the brain as the 009 is mechanical advance not vacuum advance. I love it, I get my bus and SB mixed up all the time.

Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:19 pm

You said bug not bus, how many VWs you got?

Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:25 pm

vwcrazybus wrote: You said bug not bus, how many VWs you got? A bug, 2 busses and the fastback. The bus i tested the coil on doesnt run because it has no fuel pump but we were able to test the coil by turning the engine over and putting a timing light on all the wires on the cap and the light came on showing that there was current running through. Probably not the best way to test the coil but it gives an idea, i think.

Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:36 pm

So i got her running today. The problem was that the little pin thing on the center of the inside of the distributor cap that pushes down on the rotor broke off while i was driving, the cap was fairly new so thats weird. SO that, new points and condensor and she fired right up.
So now i kinda want to replace my coil and distributor just to be safe. I was thinking for the coil getting the bosch blue coil (not mexican made) but im not sure what distributor to get, what is going to work best for my engine?

Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:19 pm

Russ Wolfe wrote: If you have spark at the coil, and none at the plugs, then check the resistance of the rotor.
Or the carbon brush on the rotor.
If you get not spark at the coil, and the points are opening and closing, check the voltage at the distributor terminal of the coil.
You should have 12V there when the points are open, and 0V when the points are closed.
Check the little ground braid on the distributor breaker plate. I needs to be intact.

I said to check that a full page back.

Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:30 pm

Russ Wolfe wrote: Russ Wolfe wrote: If you have spark at the coil, and none at the plugs, then check the resistance of the rotor.
Or the carbon brush on the rotor.
If you get not spark at the coil, and the points are opening and closing, check the voltage at the distributor terminal of the coil.
You should have 12V there when the points are open, and 0V when the points are closed.
Check the little ground braid on the distributor breaker plate. I needs to be intact.

I said to check that a full page back.
I didnt know thats what it was called. :roll:

Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:38 pm

You have to stay with the stock distributor with FI. Because to the trigger points. No one supplies the FI distributor anymore.
If you want, I can go through you distributor and freshen it up for you. I have turn them around in 2 days from when I get them. I use all genuine Bosch parts to go through them.
PM me if interested.
The stock coil that is on your engine is better than any new coil you can buy now days.

Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:42 pm

Russ Wolfe wrote: You have to stay with the stock distributor with FI. Because to the trigger points. No one supplies the FI distributor anymore.
If you want, I can go through you distributor and freshen it up for you. I have turn them around in 2 days from when I get them. I use all genuine Bosch parts to go through them.
PM me if interested.
The stock coil that is on your engine is better than any new coil you can buy now days. Is the FI distributer from these the same as say a 77 bus?

Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:57 pm

volksjunky41 wrote: Russ Wolfe wrote: You have to stay with the stock distributor with FI. Because to the trigger points. No one supplies the FI distributor anymore.
If you want, I can go through you distributor and freshen it up for you. I have turn them around in 2 days from when I get them. I use all genuine Bosch parts to go through them.
PM me if interested.
The stock coil that is on your engine is better than any new coil you can buy now days. Is the FI distributer from these the same as say a 77 bus?

not even close. Don't go around throwing wrong parts in because it's what you have laying around.

Think about it. Why would you think the distributor out of a 2L bus motor with L-jet FI (that doesn't use the same FI system as our cars) would work in a 1.6L t3? they share virtually no parts with each other. This is besides the fact that there are no trigger contacts in T4 FI for busses.

Its the same argument made every day against 009 distributors, which FYI were NEVER stock. They're off an industrial application motor IIRC, and so they result in flat spots and crappy idle.

not to be a dick but it seems to me that your method of fixing the car is throwing parts at it or swapping things in and out from other cars seemingly at random. do you have a manual?