| crowther |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:03 am |
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I know there's a special tool to help get those tough axle nuts off, but I don't have one and instead tried a 3 ft "persuader" on my 1/2" drive socket bar.
Still not enough!
Tips? I've already put plenty of lube on the threads. |
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| Sigurd |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:17 am |
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| Lube as in what...? Try PB Blaster. Also get that torque multiplier. You will thank yourself. |
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| crowther |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:24 am |
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I dunno, it's downstairs....one of those sprays for loosening nuts. I gave it several applications over a couple days.
Torque multiplier? That funny shaped wrench that fits over nut, that cost about $12?? |
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| Insaniac |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:31 am |
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| Does the wheel just spin when you try loosening it? If you're using the old bar method I know some people bolt a piece of angle iron on the drum to keep it from spinning. The torque multiplier he's talking about is probably the tool you mentioned earlier, torque dude, or whatever you want to call it. I'd suggest getting it, for 60 bucks it makes your life alot easier. |
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| Hugo Stiglitz |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:58 am |
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Get a longer "persuader" bar.
"give me a long enough lever and I can move the world." |
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| Jeckler |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:02 am |
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crowther wrote: Torque multiplier? That funny shaped wrench that fits over nut, that cost about $12??
No, that's a slug wrench, or pig wrench. I'd only use that if you plan on replacing the axle bearings, as it has the potential to damage them.
A longer bar and a 3/4" drive socket and bar is one way to do it, you may be able to rent one somewhere. A longer bar on your 1/2 drive will probably break it.
Or, get this....
Known as the Torquemesiter, torquebuddy or torquedude |
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| 66 Bugman |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:34 am |
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Jeckler wrote: crowther wrote: Torque multiplier? That funny shaped wrench that fits over nut, that cost about $12??
No, that's a slug wrench, or pig wrench. I'd only use that if you plan on replacing the axle bearings, as it has the potential to damage them.
A longer bar and a 3/4" drive socket and bar is one way to do it, you may be able to rent one somewhere. A longer bar on your 1/2 drive will probably break it.
Or, get this....
Known as the Torquemesiter, torquebuddy or torquedude
I was told to get the torque dude for this job, but I didn't and I'm glad. I borrowed a friends torque wrench with a 36mm socket and it worked way better than a torque dude would. Why pay 60 dollars + that only works for 36mm when you can put that toward a torque wrench that does all kinds of things!? Plus, you can accurately get the 220ft. lb. torque you need on that rear axle. |
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| anubiscrs |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:58 am |
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| just took mine off yesterday. I used angle iron to lock the drum then a 1/2 axle socket on a 18" breaker bar with a 3ft cheater pipe. Had them both off and back on in about 45 mins and that was replacing both wheel cylinders too. |
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| crowther |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:58 am |
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| Yeah I think $70 for that thing is a lot since it has limited uses. BUT, I can't believe a 3ft pipe on my 18" socket handle didn't break that nut. Not sure what to do. I've gotta get those drums off to check my wheel cylinders, as I may have a leaker.... |
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| harryset |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:18 pm |
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66 Bugman wrote: Jeckler wrote: crowther wrote: Torque multiplier? That funny shaped wrench that fits over nut, that cost about $12??
No, that's a slug wrench, or pig wrench. I'd only use that if you plan on replacing the axle bearings, as it has the potential to damage them.
A longer bar and a 3/4" drive socket and bar is one way to do it, you may be able to rent one somewhere. A longer bar on your 1/2 drive will probably break it.
Or, get this....
Known as the Torquemesiter, torquebuddy or torquedude
I was told to get the torque dude for this job, but I didn't and I'm glad. I borrowed a friends torque wrench with a 36mm socket and it worked way better than a torque dude would. Why pay 60 dollars + that only works for 36mm when you can put that toward a torque wrench that does all kinds of things!? Plus, you can accurately get the 220ft. lb. torque you need on that rear axle.
Not trying to start a row here, but I've got to believe that you don't know what a torque wrench is. |
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| dcollin |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:23 pm |
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| AND the torquemeister takes off gland nuts with ease! |
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| Sigurd |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:34 pm |
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| How much do you think a quality 200ftlbs.+ torque wrench costs? More than the torque tool. Get the torque tool and then use a reasonable torque wrench (0-70) that you actually CAN use for different things. That's the only accurate way to get 220 on that nut. |
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| drscope |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:02 pm |
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66 Bugman wrote: Jeckler wrote: crowther wrote: Torque multiplier? That funny shaped wrench that fits over nut, that cost about $12??
No, that's a slug wrench, or pig wrench. I'd only use that if you plan on replacing the axle bearings, as it has the potential to damage them.
A longer bar and a 3/4" drive socket and bar is one way to do it, you may be able to rent one somewhere. A longer bar on your 1/2 drive will probably break it.
Or, get this....
Known as the Torquemesiter, torquebuddy or torquedude
I was told to get the torque dude for this job, but I didn't and I'm glad. I borrowed a friends torque wrench with a 36mm socket and it worked way better than a torque dude would. Why pay 60 dollars + that only works for 36mm when you can put that toward a torque wrench that does all kinds of things!? Plus, you can accurately get the 220ft. lb. torque you need on that rear axle.
Well a GOOD torque wrench costs far more then the torque tool. Then you need a GOOD socket to go along with that at about half the cost of the torque tool.
AND it's not really good for the torque wrench to be busting things loose like this. So the Torque wrench needs to be replaced with a GOOD breaker bar to get them off. And a GOOD breaker bar is again going to cost as much as the torque tool. Then you need a six foot piece of pipe to go over your breaker bar handle.
So, all in all, the $60 for the torque tool isn't a bad investment! And you can get a very accurate torque with the torque tool! |
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| crowther |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:19 pm |
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| And the EMPI "nut removal tool" is a possibly risky method? That's the $12 answer, according to several catalogs/forums |
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| Dangermouse |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:24 pm |
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If you know where I can get one of these for the same price as a Torque Dude, please share... :D Use the right tool for the job.
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| andk5591 |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:29 pm |
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OK - people have been using the cheap breaker bar adapter on these things for years - yeah, there are easier ways to do it. What I have done when I had to and have not broken anything (yet) is after soaking overnight with PB, try the 1/2" breaker with a pipe - if no go, get a BFH and hold the tool on with the breaker bar - a couple good wraps usually breaks it loose enough to get it off with the breaker bar.
Not elegant, but I can pretty much bet that there's more than a couple of you that have done the same thing. |
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| Vinnems |
Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:56 pm |
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| crowther, check out any VW clubs in your area. They may have one you can borrow. |
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