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Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:49 pm

shane red wrote: [quote
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I don't get it. why not just weld a ragtop into a clean car? It may be very nice in the end, but is it worth it?
But Then it wouldn't be an OG Ragtop. I for one love Jason's Master Metal Skills, He's an Artist in the Truest Sense. My Convertible could use some of his Lovin' :D

Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:53 pm

hahahaha i guess so.... maybe a 59 rag.... but a 63? Just seems like a lot of effort to save a mildly desirable car. regardless though that is some pretty metal work

Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:05 pm

shane red wrote: I don't get it. why not just weld a ragtop into a clean car?
Ok, I'm sure you're not the only one asking this question. My personal take (and I mean no disrespect to those that have done it) on grafting ragtops is that it's just that....a graft. There are those out there that are done perfectly and there's those out there that aren't. But at the end of the day, it's not how the car came and it's a fake. Now, you might be able to pass it off as the real deal, but it's not. It would deter me from buying one and any honest person would have to disclose this if the car was ever sold.

Which brings me to your next question:

shane red wrote: It may be very nice in the end, but is it worth it?
To me YES, and the reason is, that I'm not building the car to sell it. I'm building the car for myself and my family. It's now part of the family. This car, in the wrong hands, would've been a parts car. I know this, I've talked about this with Jason and he knows this. The thing is though, I'm saving this car. I'm keeping it on the road. Instead of just being one more Volkswagen cut up, it's one more Volkswagen saved and put back on the road. I could've bought a running/driving '63 Ragtop for what I've got into the metal work alone. But, I'm ok with it. I'm building a car for me and my family and I'm building it how we want it built. I don't have to fix somebody else's bullshit. And I don't have to worry about what's hidden from somebody else that wanted to throw a car together and sell it. When I'm done, I will have one very solid '63 Ragtop that I'll be very proud of. I've got no worries. 8) :lol:

Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:16 pm

shane red wrote: hahahaha i guess so.... maybe a 59 rag.... but a 63? Just seems like a lot of effort to save a mildly desirable car. regardless though that is some pretty metal work
"mildly desirable car"? According to who? I know what you're saying but....c'mon.

Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:21 pm

Well said, Greg! I couldn't agree with you more. A true VW enthusiast in every sense of the word.

Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:16 pm

silvertonguedevil wrote: shane red wrote: hahahaha i guess so.... maybe a 59 rag.... but a 63? Just seems like a lot of effort to save a mildly desirable car. regardless though that is some pretty metal work
"mildly desirable car"? According to who? I know what you're saying but....c'mon.

i'm not trying to insult the car, but in the spectrum of price range, & cars in the automotive industry, a 63 rag is a rather low dollar item to have such nice work done to it. I also understand the car is for keeps, & you like the the idea of having it restored back to it's original state. but how does it differ from having repairs all over the body. Clean or not, it's still repaired. like if a clean non-og rag has a really nice rag clip & the rest of the car is tits. Seems cheaper & easier to throw a rag clip in. just an opinion

Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:19 pm

peace of mind is what it comes down to i guess, half empty or full.

keep the pan, body tag, cut the rag out, find OG hardtop donor body is another way to look at it. Not the purist way :lol:

Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:36 pm

To each their own. I guess this is where I'm fortunate enough to have the money to do it right.

Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:26 pm

It's simple realy bro, The Resurrection Project is driven by the impact made from saving cars as opposed to Jus regular quick fix modifications, our clients have the same focus...
And Yes..... We have been know to sacrifice cars that have lost all hope and we do all we can to re purpose them for numerous project that are on the rise! :D

I hope this helps Jus a bit with ur question... It's one that comes up from time to time and is always worth the effort to shine some light on. Thanx for the feed back.

Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:31 am

[quote="shane red"] silvertonguedevil wrote: shane red wrote: hahahaha i guess so.... maybe a 59 rag.... but a 63? Just seems like a lot of effort to save a mildly desirable car. regardless though that is some pretty metal work
"mildly desirable car"? According to who? I know what you're saying but....c'mon.
come out to the midwest and you will see how desirable a '63 ragtop is. you guys are spoiled

Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:52 am

shane red wrote: Just seems like a lot of effort to save a mildly desirable car.

Define desirable.

I bet your definition is different, just as anyone else's would be different from the next. An arbitrary word that only has meaning to the individual. Don't force your definition of desirable on others who see something you don't, "one man's garbage, is another man's treasure."

Then again, maybe I'm bias due to my own "undesirable" hard top '63 beetle sedan. :P

On with the build!

Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:53 pm

Snydr wrote: shane red wrote: Just seems like a lot of effort to save a mildly desirable car.

Define desirable.

I bet your definition is different, just as anyone else's would be different from the next. An arbitrary word that only has meaning to the individual. Don't force your definition of desirable on others who see something you don't, "one man's garbage, is another man's treasure."

Then again, maybe I'm bias due to my own "undesirable" hard top '63 beetle sedan. :P

On with the build!

Well said! And I love my undesirable 63 hardtop too!

Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:38 pm

Snydr wrote: shane red wrote: Just seems like a lot of effort to save a mildly desirable car.

Define desirable.

I bet your definition is different, just as anyone else's would be different from the next. An arbitrary word that only has meaning to the individual. Don't force your definition of desirable on others who see something you don't, "one man's garbage, is another man's treasure."

Then again, maybe I'm bias due to my own "undesirable" hard top '63 beetle sedan. :P

On with the build!

yeah to each his own :)

Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:47 pm

[quote="bugmandave"] shane red wrote: silvertonguedevil wrote: shane red wrote: hahahaha i guess so.... maybe a 59 rag.... but a 63? Just seems like a lot of effort to save a mildly desirable car. regardless though that is some pretty metal work
"mildly desirable car"? According to who? I know what you're saying but....c'mon.
come out to the midwest and you will see how desirable a '63 ragtop is. you guys are spoiled

this aint the midwest.... there's clean bugs all over here. For something to be restored, body rust is not acceptable in my opinion. throw some more cash at the initial investment, maybe do the same metal work to a bus .. just an idea

Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:57 pm

Way to go TRP....One more vw getting saved :wink:

Shane every time I have read your input it's weird homie, for the most part it looks like your a good guy but you come at people strong and one sided,Maybe you should slow your role and think before you type.

Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:43 am

Keep building your car... Here on the right coast cars rust. I have 63 rag I am slowly working on and I have had to replace the entire lower 6 inches of the car. Save it and keep us updated. Just my .02

Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:56 am

a 1950-1952 ragtop is more desirable than a 59 ragtop. a 1964-1967 standard beetle 1200 or 1200A ragtop would be more desirable than a 54-1963 ragtop. it is all in "what is desirable" rarity? a 1967 1200/1200A ragtop as very few exist.

Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:07 am

silvertonguedevil wrote: shane red wrote: hahahaha i guess so.... maybe a 59 rag.... but a 63? Just seems like a lot of effort to save a mildly desirable car. regardless though that is some pretty metal work
"mildly desirable car"? According to who? I know what you're saying but....c'mon.

A 63 rag on on the East coast is HARD to come by, you guys are spoiled when it comes to what is avaiable, I envy you.... We have to scrimp cut and rebuild over here.... Fat chicks are getting even hard to find in this area.

Before to long they ALL will be desirable cars.

Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:37 am

roy63 wrote: Before to long they ALL will be desirable cars.

Exaclty, so why not save what you can, when you can. 8)

Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:47 am

Agreed--and of course, to someone somewhere, every car is desirable for some reason!
Keep going with this car. :D