TheSamba.com :: View topic - Pan difference between split bug and early oval?

Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:54 pm

I am looking to find a split window bug pan for my car as the vin# was cut out of the original cars pan and welded into a later pan that the body currently sits on. I am interested in finding a split pan I can put back under the body to resurrect this car. I have located a '54 pan in Arizona that may be a good starting point but not sure if the heater controls, E brake stuff is in the right place.

Any info would help if this '54 pan is the same as a split one.

Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:31 pm

55 and earlier has heater knob behind the ebrake and the ebrake cables go to the front like a split, only differences if either is a standard with cable brakes then the pan difference would be that the seats are held down with wing nuts on the standard pan

Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:11 pm

So the e-brake set up runs to the front wheels and not the rear like a later bug? How weird. Does anyone reproduce the floor pan sections for the early pans?

Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:27 pm

Not yet, Gerson is working on it

Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:36 pm

Are '55 and earlier Ebrake parts easy to come by? The pan I am eye balling has nothing for ebrake or shifter stuff.

Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:58 pm

T2, just to clarify your question, the e-brake on the 54 and earlier, has a tube that runs forward to the adjusters under a plate between the front beam, and then via much longer cables to the rear wheels.

As far as parts, they come available in the classifieds occasionally and the cables and some other pieces you can purchase from WW or CIP. The tubes and adjuster pieces at the front may be harder to find.

Hope this helps,

Mike

Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:27 pm

Ok great. Thank you. I am a bus guy usually so this is all new to me.

Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:53 pm

If your split is a zwitter then the early oval pan will work fine. if i recall split pans had the choke cable on the pan and heater cable was a pull cable in front of the ebrake. earlier split pans had different heat cable pull. I do not recall the year break.
just saying you have a split but not posting its year limits the ability to get the proper info you need.
Andy

Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:11 am

Whats up w/ WW's pre55 pan halves??http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=112701062B

Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:27 am

The split is a '51. Sorry I guess that info would have helped too.

Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:48 am

to get a correct pan for your split you have to go for a splitpan up to oct.52,main difference is the choker in front of the e-brake,....the zwitter-splitpan from 10/52-3/53 doen´t come with that, and I guess it ´ll be to much labour to change that detail.
The pan halves are identical until 55, so you could use pan halves from a later pan up to 55 to repair a pan from let´s say 49-oct.52
Claude

Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:25 am

The WW Pre-55 panhalves are wrong for splits...

Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:23 pm

Hebster52 wrote: The WW Pre-55 panhalves are wrong for splits...
Wrong for ovals too.

Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:54 pm

Bruce wrote: Hebster52 wrote: The WW Pre-55 panhalves are wrong for splits...
Wrong for ovals too. That was my point exactly. Why would they list those like that ??
Somebody at WW has to know better and not everyone in that building can be ignuhint.

Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:04 am

Wolfsburg west made it easier for them so they dont have to stock as many part # that way.

they give you the same pan 1/2 for all year cars. then they give you the proper seat rails for whatever year that you ordered. that is why the seat rails do not come installed.

i can highly recommend WW floor pans they currently have. they are slightly thicker steel than the original ones, fit great and worth every penny

Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:20 am

so maybe they should list only the seatrails as pre55 cuz the stampings are very wrong.

Here's a quote from WW,
"Enter Wolfsburg West floor pans, the only floor pans currently on the market to feature original pattern stampings" :oops:

Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:44 am

Another main difference between the 'real split' (pre-zwitter) and later pans : splits used shorter rear shocks, so the upper shock towers on split pans are different than those used on later pans.

Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:04 am

Martenni wrote: Another main difference between the 'real split' (pre-zwitter) and later pans : splits used shorter rear shocks, so the upper shock towers on split pans are different than those used on later pans.

the upper shock towers on split pans ??????? what

Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:13 pm

Shockabsorber towers, both front and read on splitpans are shorter than on later pans.

Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:23 pm

not splits in general. mine has levers