| uncapj |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:27 am |
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i watched a show on muscle car tv and they sprayed a 69 70 mustang with this dupli color paint they sell at pretty much every auto store.
i saw the results but these guys are pros and im amature at best how good is this paint the last few cars i sprayed with rattle cans and a lot of prep work |
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| buguy |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:03 am |
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| One step above spray paint, and many steps below pretty much everything else. |
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| schell '59 |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:22 am |
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^^ I'm with Buguy..i sprayed it on a hood and bumper cover for s--ts and giggles to prove a point to a buddy of mine...on a sat. he drove the car for about a week,
on a nice 80degree day here in Ri,it solevent popped and dyed back by the week end
this was with real good sealer underneath,proper flash times etc...this stuff flashed so fast you pretty much just had to keep spraying... |
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| Matt K. |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:47 am |
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| That sounds like a good time......i hate when they advertise products like that and make it look "Foolproof".....it is really false advertising and it makes the ametures waste their hard earned money on products that will not hold up. |
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| jspbtown |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:05 am |
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| Did anyone take a real good look at that paint job? It looked so textured...like a roll on bedliner. |
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| TonysGarage |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:05 am |
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Agreed with everything said here.
It's cheap crap. No shine--sprays like old cheap laquer.
I'm not sure how they make money--I guess by being user friendly--just poor and spray or whatever.
But if you can't use some of the simpler systems that are VERY easy to mix. 4-1-1. 2-1. Whatever. You really shouldn't be painting anything.
Some pait lines are difficult to mix, but there are many lower end lines that are LOADS better and easy. Not much more expensive eithe. |
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| jaymonkey |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:15 am |
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| I saw that episode, the paint looked like it was dry when it came out of the gun! They sort of avoided any well lit close ups. But it's amazing what some people think "that looks good". When there are other options for a little less I don't know why people would bother. |
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| spook |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:39 am |
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| never used it, never will |
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| kburg12 |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:23 pm |
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| I used the Dupli-Color Championship White on my bug. It sprayed ok but had alot of orange peel in some places if you don't have your gun set just exactly right. This paint also has extremely poor chemical resistance. 6 Months after painting, I spilled some gas on the passenger side fender and it ate through the paint and primer (both were Dupli-Color). I won't use it again. Oh and the clear starts to turn kinda yellow at 3 coats and even after color sanding it still didn't have a decent shine to it and still kinda Yellow. I then sanded ithe clear off and then used a rattle can clear that worked a whole lot better I am going to repaint the car anyway, so I figured I would try it. LOL |
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| jspbtown |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:48 pm |
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It was most telling in the reflection from the lights. You could see all the shadowing in the paint when you followed the light reflection.
I am a hack painter but I like the Kirker paints. Real easy to mix (3:1 for their single stage base) and 4:1 for their clear. I spray clear on top of the single stage for some extra gloss. At about $85-$100 a gallon (including activator) for both the color and clear its pretty affordably priced.
Here is an Avenger I just painted.Iit was before I cleared it, and I really did a terrible job. I tried a reducer (didn't need it) and my gun settings were way off. I just sanded out my mistakes, sprayed two more coats of yellow, and then 4 coats of clear. if it wasn't for my unclean blue tarp paint booth it would have been a 9 out of 10. With some little bits of debris it goes to a 7.5 out of 10.
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| schell '59 |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:12 pm |
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...so this ISN"T dupli-color?..correct?
...sanding the color down and re coating always lands a better job..that's called "flow" coating...most guys use just clear like myself...if it's single i wait the following day and throw the flow coat over mixed with the clear for better sanding and gloss...putting clear over the single is the same as having base clear.
good looking avenger 8) |
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| jspbtown |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:29 pm |
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Its Kirker.
I wish I was good enough to have been just "flow coating" it. In actuality I was just fixing all my runs, drips & errors!
The first time through on the yellow was just darn awful. |
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| schell '59 |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:44 pm |
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see that you did a "flow coa"t and you didn't even know it :wink:
...sometimes I'll go back and tweak the first finish as well...since i plan on recoating it anyways for depth and a better laydown...sure it's a little more time and money,but parked next to a standard final finish,that was simply 2-3 coat cleared, it's a completely different look.
not to mention,this way you can walk around the car and tweak all the little areas that might have pissed you off,and rather than leaving it and dealing with it...you can go back make it right and sign the job better.
for me the flow coat works best for fender wells,door jambs and under trunk areas,(as i can not stand tape lines and the unneeded sanding the tape lines and buffing them out),these areas will find a lot of dirt and crap...put a decent color coat down,come back sand the body back down with 6-800 wet and finish with a nice flow coat and it looks unreal...by painting th all the jambs,wells and undersides at wonce it not only looks like factory but there is ZERO tape lines,since the dirt has gotten trapped in the first coat and is not going anywhere,now with the flow it is going over a perfect glassy surface...results are completely different.
then your wet sanding and buff doesn't need the 1k-15-2k sanding to make it flat...2k and your good,3k if your gonna rock darker colors or blacks!! |
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| uncapj |
Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:22 pm |
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| ok so dupli color is garbage what are some other cheap paint choices i just want a decent paint job that wont melt when gas spilles on it |
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| buguy |
Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:00 am |
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| Just find a supplier locally and ask them about a value line of their single stage paint. All of it is pretty decent. |
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| schell '59 |
Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:03 am |
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| true that!! there's gotta be 100's out there...and make sure it's a urethane based brand as well. |
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| uncapj |
Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:54 pm |
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ok so fiind a local paint supplyer and see what they have
I see at harbor freight they have this little purple sprey gun has any body used it how well is it the reason im contemplating cheap stuff is because the cheapest way to paint we be alot better for me finacialy then having to pay for higher end products |
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| buguy |
Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:47 am |
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| I have heard that the purple gun sprays ok. |
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| TonysGarage |
Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:23 am |
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Ive used the purple gun several times. 1-to spray por 15, that way I just throw the gun away afterwards (I mean it's $10)
2--I was at a buddy's house and he was fixing his truck and bought a HF gun instead of borrowing one of mine--he sprayed the color and I sprayed the clear (outside). I laid 2 coats down and it came out as slick as can be. But it wastes a lot of material.
And I'm not sure it would last long. But it's $10! |
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| jzjames |
Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:32 pm |
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uncapj wrote: ok so dupli color is garbage what are some other cheap paint choices i just want a decent paint job that wont melt when gas spilles on it
Well I painted this bug with Duplicolor spraycan paint, but the kicker is it's got to be their Engine Enamel line.
It does not scratch, gas or oil witll not melt it, although I do avoid getting it on it as much as possible. (It could possibly stain it after repeatedly getting gas on it).
Generally it looks like commercial automotive paint such as Maaco might use. Im very satisfied with it, and no one thinks it is a rattlecan job.
Duplicolor Engine Enamel. Check out their colors and pick one. Of course the trick is to do impeccable prep, there's no need for alot of primer in fact I avoid it. I wetsand one section or panel at a time and completely paint only one panel at a time, masking off with newspaper and masking tape from Walmart. It takes many hours of wetsanding and 5 or 10 minutes to spray the paint.
Bring on the Naysayers. |
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