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Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:37 pm

to each their own i suppose---in fact, if you're painting a fat chick just use whatevers laying around (joking--sorta)---

how many cans did you go through to spray your whole bug with even coverage?
wondering if its even a decent suggestion for this guy since he already has a HVLP gun and a compressor ready

Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:24 pm

TonysGarage wrote: to each their own i suppose---in fact, if you're painting a fat chick just use whatevers laying around

Exactly!

But Duplicolor Engine Enamel does come in a color that would be good for one of those vintage models.

Yeah, it's not that cheap, but you can spray a fender with like one can, and a hood or a roof- I would have 3 cans ready.

Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:43 pm

jzjames wrote: uncapj wrote: ok so dupli color is garbage what are some other cheap paint choices i just want a decent paint job that wont melt when gas spilles on it

Well I painted this bug with Duplicolor spraycan paint, but the kicker is it's got to be their Engine Enamel line.
It does not scratch, gas or oil witll not melt it, although I do avoid getting it on it as much as possible. (It could possibly stain it after repeatedly getting gas on it).
Generally it looks like commercial automotive paint such as Maaco might use. Im very satisfied with it, and no one thinks it is a rattlecan job.

Duplicolor Engine Enamel. Check out their colors and pick one. Of course the trick is to do impeccable prep, there's no need for alot of primer in fact I avoid it. I wetsand one section or panel at a time and completely paint only one panel at a time, masking off with newspaper and masking tape from Walmart. It takes many hours of wetsanding and 5 or 10 minutes to spray the paint.

Bring on the Naysayers.

Doesnt look too bad from what i can see. I have definately seen worse. But...it doesnt scratch?? I promise you it does scratch!

Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:57 pm

What a naysayer buguy---if he says it doesn't scratch, i'm sure it doesn't scratch

Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:05 pm

Nope, doesnt scratch. Ever use it?

I mean you could key it or whatever but it would still probably hold up better than Maaco.

Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:55 am

jzjames wrote: Bring on the Naysayers.
so how much did it end up costing you for the whole job?

Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:51 am

..looks like a spray can job...doesn't have mmuch depth from the pics your showing.

the masking and prep seems to be a little over the top when compared to spray gun/compressor job...not to mention the amount of cans...bet you have an easy $100 spray cans,tape,paper,degreasers etc...all said and done...

activated single stage,100 bucks and has UV hold out. and it's urethane

..it's rattle can it won't stand up to UV i can garrantee it...looks the part and should last you for quite sometime but I would NEVER recommend anyone a rattle can job as everyone has different ways of doing things,technique is one thing but manufactures,metalflakes,cost etc and spray can is entirely different compared to air.

Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:19 am

I went into a heated debate with a guy over a brand of "Roll-On" paint.....he would roll it on, let it dry...roll on more, let dry....then colorsand and buff.....it was interesting BUT, i explained the fact of repairs to it and the fact that you are not doing to roll out a pearl or metallic color.

The problem was the way he was convincing people that it was the best stuff ever. I explained to him that the product didnt contain any U.V. inhibitor in it and would slowly chalk out unless you kept it waxed and out of the sun at all times.

The only real way to get what you pay for is to buy a quality automotive paint product that is designed to hold up to the elements and sunlight year after year. Doing the job once with a quality product will save you time and money in the long run. I still see a couple of cars that i have painted over 15 years ago that with normal care are still looking great and holding up well.....those people are happy that they only paid for the job once.

Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:44 am

^^'nuff said!!!

that's it in a nutshell right there!

Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:08 am

Gunna put us all out of business!

Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:28 am

Absolutely.

I'm not worried about myself--but my pregnant wife. How will I pay the bills?

Maybe I can just buy a TON of spray paint?!

Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:53 am

Matt K. wrote: I went into a heated debate with a guy over a brand of "Roll-On" paint.....he would roll it on, let it dry...roll on more, let dry....then colorsand and buff.....it was interesting BUT, i explained the fact of repairs to it and the fact that you are not doing to roll out a pearl or metallic color.

The problem was the way he was convincing people that it was the best stuff ever. I explained to him that the product didnt contain any U.V. inhibitor in it and would slowly chalk out unless you kept it waxed and out of the sun at all times.

The only real way to get what you pay for is to buy a quality automotive paint product that is designed to hold up to the elements and sunlight year after year. Doing the job once with a quality product will save you time and money in the long run. I still see a couple of cars that i have painted over 15 years ago that with normal care are still looking great and holding up well.....those people are happy that they only paid for the job once.
even the FACTORY told him and he wouldn't believe it.

Foxx wrote: jzjames wrote: Bring on the Naysayers.
so how much did it end up costing you for the whole job?
just wondering.

Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:56 am

TonysGarage wrote: Absolutely.

I'm not worried about myself--but my pregnant wife. How will I pay the bills?

Maybe I can just buy a TON of spray paint?!

Thats why I pull out!!

Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:02 am

...looks like i'm going in the way of rollers,brushes and rattle...keeps the costs down and it'll make sooo many vw owners happy!!!

...that would be a "no"!!! 8)

Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:40 am

All good points.
I heard of the "Amaziing $50 Rustoleum paint job". Doesnt work (because its Rustoleum) and too labor intensive.

The Duplicolor Engine Enamel paintjob used maybe 12 cans. It didnt require primer although a little was used on a few spots (and then wetsanded almost all off).
Wetdry sandpaper + masking tape + rattlecans = around $100.

The Duplicolor EE UV holdout is better on the blues/greens than on the reds/oranges but hey, you can recoat it or touch it up easily at any time.
The "Ford Blue" shown on my fatchick is 3 years old and looks new. If you can spray, without runs, it covers and it is not distinguishable as rattlecans. It does not scratch when brushed with sticks/branches/ zippers/snaps etc.

Alternatives:
Professional paintjob costing thousands, (often a crapshoot).
Maaco paintjob costing more than you had hoped (definate crapshoot).
Your own: spray equipment ($$$), sanding paper, degreaser, paint reducer primer sealer & skill.... ("activated single stage, 100 bucks"???)

The guy asked about Duplicolor and my point is the engine enamel is the only option there. Because of the high-heat forumula or whatever it has the adhesion that is unlike other rattlecan paints. (This paint is designed to go on engine blocks)

Just my take. I actually used it.

Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:48 am

we're just bustin no worries bro...the job probably looks killer regardless I'm sure,but on a serious note,we were kinda talking about the dupli color paint in the qt cans and clears as well not so much the rattle end of dupli color..

activated single stage 100 bucks:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AUTO-PAINT-TORCH-RE...veQ5fTools

dude doesn't matter if it;s "garbage" it's still comparable to spray paint and your getting a gallon...I can give you another 10 example from different companies all days long...to question how much materials are in this thread, with guys that do it everyday for years and years, isn't really worth the argument.

the thing that's funny is the qt can stuff is a joke...and know what if your gonna use that crap you might as well be using rattle...since the qt cans are and easy 30 bucks each and you'll need 2-3 of the color and 2-3 of the clear that's a whopping 150 bucks easy when you can get real nice single and even base/clear for that!!

the average guy can spray a car if sent in the right direction..the problem is not to many wanna spend the money on proper materials cuz they own a "bug" and not a vette...this has been this way for decades because of the car and it's following...hence why you rattle canned yours and not set out to find a reputable shop or wanted to try spraying the car yourself..been there done that with rattle,brushes you name it,but ti doesn't make it right.

Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:14 pm

...as far as paying thousands...if you do decide to try it your self...both these trucks were painted in the garage behind them for less that $200 each for materials...yes $200...u tech base/clear,1 qt of each color for a total of 4 qts and 1 gallon of clear each.

gmc-1qt silver,1qt black,1 gal clear...2qts $75,clear $114 activated-$180
Toy'-1qt red,1qt black,1 gal clear...2qts $85,clear $114 activated-$199

add in a touch more for a roll of paper,and 4 rolls of tape-$45 each(with still plenty of paper left over for 5 other jobs and tape as well.

http://401restos.com/custom.aspx

'06 gmc had 8k on it and it was brand new when i painted it,sanded it with 6-800,taped it off,light disassembly and base/cleared it sat. got up sunday,did a light wet sand and buff and put it back together was driving it to work monday morning.

the Toy',was a lot more involve but with 3 rolls of 2" tape,some masking paper and come light disassembly,an exacto knife,it too was done in a day...these were the first real overalls out side of the booth enviroment.

sure i had a compressor and a gun,both were bought at Home Depot for a whopping 400 bucks...and if you gonna have a garage you should have an air compressor and air tools anyways

Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:07 pm

OK I just went out and snapped these pics:

Duplicolor Engine Enamel paintjob. (I still need to hit the hinges).

Its rattlecan, applied as I described. The car is covered, looks presentable, and I really like the feature that if I need to recoat a panel in a few years, I can do it with a light wetsand and a $5.50 spraycan.

Its a POS BUG!!

Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:31 pm

Come on--don't take any of this personally.

We're just busting your chops.

I'm sure that was the right option for you and your situation and wants.

The original poster wanted a cheap automotive paint that he could spray--not spray cans.

There are numerous companies where he can get his paint for $100. That would always look better and last longer than spray cans. That's all everyones saying.

As for me--I'm out of this topic.

Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:11 pm

^^x2...

it ain't POS,you did a good job...just saying this thread is about single stage vs base/clear not other alternatives...this thread can go in a hundred directions if that was the topic.