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Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:14 pm

At least you get to DRIVE it and enjoy it and not worry about it! If something happens, you can touch it up for $12.

I am looking at months of work, then years of worry! Whee! :)

Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:12 pm

jzjames wrote: All good points.
I heard of the "Amaziing $50 Rustoleum paint job". Doesnt work (because its Rustoleum) and too labor intensive.

The Duplicolor Engine Enamel paintjob used maybe 12 cans. It didnt require primer although a little was used on a few spots (and then wetsanded almost all off).
Wetdry sandpaper + masking tape + rattlecans = around $100.

The Duplicolor EE UV holdout is better on the blues/greens than on the reds/oranges but hey, you can recoat it or touch it up easily at any time.
The "Ford Blue" shown on my fatchick is 3 years old and looks new. If you can spray, without runs, it covers and it is not distinguishable as rattlecans. It does not scratch when brushed with sticks/branches/ zippers/snaps etc.

Alternatives:
Professional paintjob costing thousands, (often a crapshoot).
Maaco paintjob costing more than you had hoped (definate crapshoot).
Your own: spray equipment ($$$), sanding paper, degreaser, paint reducer primer sealer & skill.... ("activated single stage, 100 bucks"???)

The guy asked about Duplicolor and my point is the engine enamel is the only option there. Because of the high-heat forumula or whatever it has the adhesion that is unlike other rattlecan paints. (This paint is designed to go on engine blocks)

Just my take. I actually used it.
this guy has single stage omni(ppg) for 33 to 50 bucks.
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/wbmesq/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562
not knocking whatcha did,..i'm just saying,.. if you shop around,.you might come out with better for the same or less price.

Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:35 pm

I think i read on here or elsewhere that the 'duplicolr paint shop' paint is as cheap and thin as rattle can. It has no reducer or hardener, so it seems like its just uncanned rattlecans lol.
I would just spend a few bucks more for a better painting system with proper reducer and hardeners.

Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:21 am

jzjames wrote:

Alternatives:
Professional paintjob costing thousands, (often a crapshoot).

.

key word is Professional
it is truly a Professional paint job, then it is not a crap shoot

Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:02 am

Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:52 am

I used it on my jeep just for that reason I would tear it up in one 4x4 trip was easy to fix where I tore it up. A auto I would not tear up I would go with a way better paint.

Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:58 pm

the duplicolr paint shop paint already has the proper reducer and hardeners... its good for the "weekend warrior" type who spends ONLY weekends on his projects and wants to do it all from the ground up himself...

the paint is pre mixed
proper reducers
and hardners
easy 1.2.3 steps
and no spray windows making it easy to shoot primer this weekend lay color next weekend and maby get around to slappin on some clear in a few weeks... no its not "pro paint" but i've seen several cars done and with the proper pre setup and post wet sand and wax it will look great...

i plan to use it when i spray one of my cars and i'm just going to take my time... i've seen pro painters hurry a job with high dollar paint and the end results look like shit...

Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:12 pm

premixed should hardly be the selling point.
neither should the flash window.

there are numerous paint lines that are MUCH better than duplicolor, they are as easy to mix as anything around and are no more expensive than the duplicolor

for the weekend warrior, there is no problem with spraying primer and a week later spraying color---but spraying color and clear a week apart---there are numerous issues with that...the least of them being the hassle of setting up your temporary booth, cleaning everything, and spending those hours just getting ready to spray

Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:41 pm

Hellaslow wrote: the duplicolr paint shop paint already has the proper reducer and hardeners... its good for the "weekend warrior" type who spends ONLY weekends on his projects and wants to do it all from the ground up himself...

the paint is pre mixed
proper reducers
and hardners
easy 1.2.3 steps
and no spray windows making it easy to shoot primer this weekend lay color next weekend and maby get around to slappin on some clear in a few weeks... no its not "pro paint" but i've seen several cars done and with the proper pre setup and post wet sand and wax it will look great...

i plan to use it when i spray one of my cars and i'm just going to take my time... i've seen pro painters hurry a job with high dollar paint and the end results look like shit...

I totally disagree. Your just setting yourself up to fail using that stuff. If you are going to go through all the work of doing it yourself, why not use a decent product that you can be truely proud of. You are already saving all the money on the labor doing it yourself...dont sell yourself short at the finishline!

Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:07 pm

buguy wrote: dont sell yourself short at the finishline!

Now youre doing product placement?! what do you work for SW?!?!
haha

Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:26 pm

TonysGarage wrote: premixed should hardly be the selling point.
neither should the flash window.

there are numerous paint lines that are MUCH better than duplicolor, they are as easy to mix as anything around and are no more expensive than the duplicolor

for the weekend warrior, there is no problem with spraying primer and a week later spraying color---but spraying color and clear a week apart---there are numerous issues with that...the least of them being the hassle of setting up your temporary booth, cleaning everything, and spending those hours just getting ready to spray

but you can't tell me its NOT a step above a "spray bomb" job...

i never said its a replacement for a pro job and there are better products but its def a step up esp for the DIYer...

i work for a Dap/advance auto and have been for a long time and thoes whom ask me what i would do get "the good better best" options and it doesn't matter to me if they want to listen and go to the place across town to buy the "quality" stuff like i tell them because i do BUT if they want what i have it will get the job done... not the best by no means in which i'm not trying to imply here either...

Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:38 pm

...for me i really have to say "premix" is set up for the guy who doesn't have the klnowledge,shop or experience with paint systems...and with this,sure it could be great for the dude who wants to lay color on his ride for the first time for experience,no other real products to compare it too and just to say he did it all himself,maybe...that said,sure i would suggest it...

but for the others, the amount of money you spend on the Dupli-Color system you CAN buy a nice single stage kit and even base/clear as well...which lays down better,has better UV etc....

as far as the spray vs rattle in the "dupli color" I think it really depends on your amount of work you wanna do...sure you can def. get a better job with the spray vs the rattle,but both are NOT nearly as strong and reliable as a real system and we all can agree on that.

...it's ultimately what your end result is aimed at,for a little extra cash you can put a great paint job by your self with a gun and compressor,with decent products and if your already that commited, it's almost a shame to take a ride to Advanced auto parts and buy your "pre-made" color choices paint product and a gallon of clear at over $200 by the time your done.

seems a shame when your really trying to do a nice job on your ride that you worked hard on getting it where it's at...why turn in the other direction,considering prep and paint are the most imortant part of any car...

...presentation and first impression...like seeing a hot chick!!

Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:14 pm

I suppose it is a small step up from spray bomb because it surely will lay better, but the UV protection isnt any better. It seems to me that if you cant mix paint in a marked cup....maybe this isnt your cup of tea. There are much better systems at the same or nearly the same cost. Then there is better paint and even more cost. Just depends on what you want to spend. Paint is no different than building an engine. Crap in....crap out. Simple as that. Just know what your getting into before you jump into it.

Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:32 am

So this stuff is $23.00 a quart...or $92.00 a gallon right?

For $60 for 3 quarts and $22 for the activator (total of $82 for a sprayable gallon) I would use a single stage Kirker Urethane paint any day. While it might not be the BEST stuff, its going to be tougher than the lacquer.

Spray some clear over the entire job for another $85.

Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:55 am

jspbtown wrote: So this stuff is $23.00 a quart...or $92.00 a gallon right?

For $60 for 3 quarts and $22 for the activator (total of $82 for a sprayable gallon) I would use a single stage Kirker Urethane paint any day. While it might not be the BEST stuff, its going to be tougher than the lacquer.
Spray some clear over the entire job for another $85.

I remember when people use to tell me" I have 25 coats of hand rubbed lacquer on that car".....25 coats....cause it takes that much to achieve any color or build....and the hand rubbed part.....thats just scary.

Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:01 am

My lacquer paint jobs only had 5 coats and they looked 12" deep! :D

Edit: They didn't peel/oxidize/fade and could be spot repaired! No sanding between coats and all sprayed the same day. Machine polished after 2 weeks.

Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:04 am

jspbtown wrote: So this stuff is $23.00 a quart...or $92.00 a gallon right?

For $60 for 3 quarts and $22 for the activator (total of $82 for a sprayable gallon) I would use a single stage Kirker Urethane paint any day. While it might not be the BEST stuff, its going to be tougher than the lacquer.

Spray some clear over the entire job for another $85.

Thats whats so silly, that SW stuff i got the last time was $80 for a gallon of red, and $49 for a gallon of clear and thats with activator.

Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:19 am

yeah that Duplicolor stuff is way to thin and I think pretty expensive...i priced it out yesterday at my local Advanced and the qt of standard black was 27 with out tax..it will take an easy golloe to do jambs,underhood and complete coats around the body...also the same for clear ,the clear was 32 a qt...

like i said at $200 bucks easy single and cheaper base/clear is a way better deal

and nothing for nothing I bet the b/c and single have customer tech line an support,i bet duplicolor could give 2 s--ts!!!

Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:47 pm

[/quote]the average guy can spray a car if sent in the right direction..the problem is not to many wanna spend the money on proper materials cuz they own a "bug" and not a vette...this has been this way for decades because of the car and it's following...hence why you rattle canned yours and not set out to find a reputable shop or wanted to try spraying the car yourself..been there done that with rattle,brushes you name it,but ti doesn't make it right.[/quote]

If i could afford to spend thousands on my bug i would just because i know i will never have to do it again but i dont have a job my bug is my DD the paint is bad. the only money i make is odd jobs like working on peoples cars and painting houses or landscaping for below pennies on the dollar

like i rewired a bug for 35 bucks

rebuilt a carb tuned up changed the oil fuel filter belt plugs points cap rotor valve adjustment and replaced the vacume lines fuel pump rewired tail lights and put in a radio and 4 speakers for about 100 dollars on another bug but this person had to buy the parts

Now I have a craftsman 20 gal air compressor i bought that HF hvlp gun and ive already painted a miata and another bug with it and i got to say it was user friendly and the jobs where great for the first to cars ive used a gun for

unless someone is feeling generous and has a shop up here and wants to hire me on im a quick learner real hard worker and the type of guy you can trust to anything with out a second thought [/quote]

Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:12 pm

Duplicolor is just trying to target unknowledgable customers based off of the fact that it's $27 a quart-- People who have no idea how much paint the project is actually going to need, or what to look for in a paint system. They should be ashamed of themselves. They know it's not a good painting system at ALL.

Lacquer paints are at the bottom of the barrel, but this crap is priced like it's acrylic urethane. What a rip off, I don't care how much you like or hate this stuff. You are not getting your money's worth. I can't believe they are advertising it as a car paint in any way.