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Tue May 24, 2011 8:30 pm

what is the CV size and angularity of the 411s ??? I've looked at "blindchickenracing.com" at the cv 101 and it doesnt list the 411s. thanks for your help

Tue May 24, 2011 9:53 pm

Same as a VW Thing and some Porsches.

Wed May 25, 2011 10:48 am

The angle is supposed to be 21 degrees. Are you talking about the thickness of the CV?

Wed May 25, 2011 5:22 pm

ok the 21 degrees and same as the thing and porsches answers my question perfectly. I had looked everywhere and no one specifically said that the CVs are the same as Things and 944s. thanks

Wed May 25, 2011 7:19 pm

hello,, i have read in the cv joint 101,,if you look for type 4 you can see 22 deg, for the type 4 and all the angle and description,, type 4 is for the 411-412,,cheers,,bb412

Thu May 26, 2011 3:39 am

Not thtat this has to do someting with the question but the (I think) odd thing with the 411-412 drive shaft setup is that it angles quite a bit backwords (gearbox drive flange center is in front of wheel center).

/Lars S

Thu May 26, 2011 8:48 am

Lars S wrote: Not thtat this has to do someting with the question but the (I think) odd thing with the 411-412 drive shaft setup is that it angles quite a bit backwords (gearbox drive flange center is in front of wheel center).

/Lars S

This moves the weight forward a bit and shortens the rear overhang. I assume for both looks and handling.

Thu May 26, 2011 12:34 pm

Yes, that and the fact that these cars had to be designed with long trailing arms because:
(1) they needed the heavy springs to control the weight being all centred around the axle line.

(2) Had they used a shorter trailing arm length...the travel angles of that arm would have been quite severe for the amount it would need to rebound and/or the shock and spring combination would have been tough to tune for good ride.

So the longer the arm, the farther the axle is from the pivot point on the trailing arm. The transmission is where it is as Wildthings noted...for balance point.

If memory serves, the 4 speed is slightly longer and has les angle than the Auto. Ray

Thu May 26, 2011 9:39 pm

Illustration of the drive shaft angle for an automatic.

/Lars S