TheSamba.com :: View topic - Wheel well Component original on my Samba?

Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:16 pm

Hi I have recently bought an Samba 23 windowbus 1961. The VENT LOUVER TRIM is outside and the car fander is also outside. Is this original? I can send photo of this part if you give me your mail address.

Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:11 pm

peterblodorn wrote: Hi I have recently bought an Samba 23 windowbus 1961. The VENT LOUVER TRIM is outside and the car fander is also outside. Is this original? I can send photo of this part if you give me your mail address.

louvers and trim yes by fander do you mean fender? if so it should be flat with no lip

Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:49 pm

Like these louvers

Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:52 pm

Lipped rear fender wells started after 1961, so no, it's not right.

Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:54 pm

donald.lemay wrote: Like these louvers

how can I upload an image as you did? I would like to show you the photo of this part. thanks Peter

Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:44 am

Here you go. I find if you take pics with phone on web ready, most will fit this format without resizing.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6

Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:14 am

donald.lemay wrote: Here you go. I find if you take pics with phone on web ready, most will fit this format without resizing.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=857606

here is the original photo

Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:28 am

I could be wrong, but to me that looks just like my late January
1963 15 window with outward vents and lip on wheel well.
In other words a '63 bus.
What does your M-code plate read?

Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:16 am

Mr Mike wrote: I could be wrong, but to me that looks just like my late January
1963 15 window with outward vents and lip on wheel well.
In other words a '63 bus.
What does your M-code plate read?

Hi, The chassi number is: 968 281 and there is an M 043 and M 197 Code.
Samba was built on 5th of June 1962 (Colour L325 Mausgrau) and Contry of dstinatiion was: Salzburg / Austria. (Model 241, VW-Kleinbus, Sondermodell)

Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:32 pm

Looking at the David Eccles Specification guide for VW transporter
1950 - 1967 It says the 1963 model year for export buses started
30 july of 1963 and in Germany it began 1 October 1962.

I'm thinking your bus is a very early 1963 that was fitted with M- code
043 which states : complies with Swiss market regulations.
Apparently it was intended for export to that country originaly.
Unfortunately I was not able to locate M- code 097.

Basicaly to answer your original question, I believe the vents and wheel
well lip are correct for your bus. I also believe its an early sixty-three model, not a sixty-one as you were told.

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:24 pm

The rear wheel arch started with VIN # 971550 according the VW book Progressive Refinements:

Do you think the rear arches have been replaced?

Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:10 am

EverettB wrote: The rear wheel arch started with VIN # 971550 according the VW book Progressive Refinements:

Do you think the rear arches have been replaced?

I got an Zertifikat of the Volkswagen Museum that this Samba has been Built 5th of July 1962.

Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:01 am

Maybe they started earlier... if your rear wheel arches are original.

Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:05 am

It would be interesting to know if it came with the humpback front seat or the 1/3 2/3 front seat.
Do you have a pic of the seat stand area?

Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:05 pm

Clara wrote: It would be interesting to know if it came with the humpback front seat or the 1/3 2/3 front seat.
Do you have a pic of the seat stand area?

Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:07 pm

peterblodorn wrote: Clara wrote: It would be interesting to know if it came with the humpback front seat or the 1/3 2/3 front seat.
Do you have a pic of the seat stand area?

Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:10 pm

peterblodorn wrote: peterblodorn wrote: Clara wrote: It would be interesting to know if it came with the humpback front seat or the 1/3 2/3 front seat.
Do you have a pic of the seat stand area?

Here are the two links for the fotos of the seats.
It would be good to know for 100% how this Samba was built originaly because I would like to do the restauration as it was originaly.

If you have any idears from where I can get this informaiton please let me know.
Thanks
Peter

Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:32 pm

"Seat stand area" is the area where the front seat(s) sit.

Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:04 pm

It looks like a bench seat.
I believe Clara is trying to ask you if your Bus has these types of seat mounts:

Notice the 3 adjustments.

I think yes?

Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:03 am

Your bus is certainly a 62 model year given the COA, build date, and VIN. I am no expert on this but after a bit of research I believe the VW Book is in error as every 62 bus I've been able to find a picture of has the lip on the wheel well. I suspect the change began with the 62 model year bus and since your bus is a late 62, I would have no doubt that the wheel well lip is original.

I even found a 62 with a VIN of 827XXX that had the lip which makes that bus a very early 62, likely made in August of 1961.