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Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:07 am

I have been looking into it for a while now, thing is like you illuded to you can't get both of both worlds, low and high RPMs with a Single... Is a bummer.... That is why I am holding off.....

Page 3 cool, so I will say this, why stave our your RPM range when you can have it all, also, did you know you can intermix CB and Mega? RB

Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:11 am

RailBoy wrote: Just wish that Mega would Man-Up and build a big engine VW Single Throttle Body Kit, bet they would make a good piece since they have the back ground...

You need to man-up and modify your chassis to accept dual carbs. a sawzall and a new piece of tube with a coupe bends welded in and you done. After your done you'll feel it was the best thing you ever did.

Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:14 am

Yea, it is what it takes to do the mods to get EFI, not the rail, untouched and is bad ass as yours,lloll.... 8) RB

Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:52 am

RailBoy wrote: I have been looking into it for a while now, thing is like you illuded to you can't get both of both worlds, low and high RPMs with a Single... Is a bummer.... That is why I am holding off.....

Sure you can, you just have to build it yourself as nobody is making a decent single TB n/a intake system.

I run a single 65mm Mustang TB, peak hp is still at 7500rpm just like it was when I ran dual 50mm IDF pattern TB's. I used mandrel exhaust tubing to build my intake system. Four 3" flex ducts feed the air filter box from my quarter window nacca ducts, from there a 3.5" pipe feeds my throttle body, from there it Y-pipes to a 3" pipe to each side of the engine, and from there it splits to a 2.25" pipe to each cylinder.

Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:34 am

Why are you using a mustang or a single tb? Is this a turbo thing being easier to pipe the one than the 4 tbs?

Does an idf pattern have 2 air flow sensors per bank? I suppose you would have to.

Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:53 pm

Most all modern systems are speed density, no airflow meter

Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:57 pm

My brothers 2007 subaru has a MAF I believe...atleast I remember him cleaning something like it during a rebuild. The CB system uses a MAP sensor.

Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:48 pm

MS uses MAP, RPM, and throttle postion. You can configure it to also use a MAF, but I see no real need for it.

Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:38 pm

Map sensor is speed density

Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:00 am

I am the guy that likes to get in the car and drive it. Maybe tinker a bit but scrounging the parts together for an MS system wasn't for me. Qtune is a fine system that will bolt on, start the first time out and make tuning a breeze.
I loaded my profile from CB and ran the car. It had some "burbling" on decel in 3rd gear going down the hills so I needed to tweek it this weekend. that took all of 5 minutes as I opened the system, went to the VE table and told the system to "apply VE correction". Took it back out, VOILA !! runs like a champ.
i am a fan but I also am not looking to eeck every last bit of HP out of the car and I also have no desire to really learn FI in and out. I've got other hobbies that take up my time so this system works for me. Just my two cents.

Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:06 pm

I'm leaning towards CB, but price and single TB is sliding me toward MS. Maybe I'll add the extras onto the CB kit...I dunno....

Too many choices.....

Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:15 pm

the cb will run any single tb you have

Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:57 pm

You know if you cn run a knock sensor on the CB system?

I'd like to go with the single TB for torque, simplicity, and size. I'm tired of syncing linkage and would rather have torque than top end HP (I never hit more than 4000rpm and my lifters peeter out at 6000).

Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:04 pm

Why is the German intake so strange?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=612604

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=519841

Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:42 am

Sniperx wrote: Why is the German intake so strange?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=612604

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=519841 By the time you add the wideband to that kit, your at the same cost as the CB kit. The CB kit uses a dual throat throttle body and comes with new linkage, a better qaulity fuel pump and regulator and a terminated wire harness.

Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:43 am

Forgot about the wire harness. I personally would have been lost in thebspaghetti that is efi. The harness is a HUGE fact in your decision.

Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:52 am

Where can I read more on the new CB setup? Always looking to educate myself more about what is out there. Any links or anything to read up on it?

Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:06 am

Eaallred wrote: Where can I read more on the new CB setup? Always looking to educate myself more about what is out there. Any links or anything to read up on it? Eric, Email me at CB and I will reply back with the software attachment. I havn't even advertised the new ecu yet.

Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:00 pm

Where does the CB IAC mount to? Is it compatible with the German intake/TB?

Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:07 pm

The cb iac is remote mounted, you could use the original port for fast idle. I used 12mm breather hose for mine