kevin3406 |
Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:07 pm |
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I have a 66 fatchick which still has the 1300 block. I was considering a dual Carb setup. (why is a good question....why not?) I was wondering if anyone is familiar with this type oof rig. know some of the racers did this in the 60's. if anyone has info as to what kind of carbs work best, locating intakes, linkage woes etc, please help me out. or talk me out of it. I guess my biggest question is should I use 2bbl carbs each side, or single bbls each side? I know I can make the intakes, that's the easy part. and I own 2 good running. solex 30/31 which is a single on the car now. so why couldn't I just Fab up intakes and run twin 30/31 carbs? I'm not worried about them two little heat riser thingys. anyone wanna give some tips? p.s... my car is still a single port and is a driver/grocery getter ..... |
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1badghia69 |
Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:23 pm |
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If u do rig something up post some pics or email me I have a 69 autostick ghia with a 1500 single I'm wanting twin carbs ... I'll prob have to fab mine being as I have to have a large vacumm source for the autostick ...I would think two singles would be better 4 barrels seems like way too much fuel.. consider a stock 1600 likes no more than two 40s.... |
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kevin3406 |
Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:36 pm |
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thanks bro. Im only interested in doing such a thing just because its not commonly done. I've been to hundereds of shows and seen lots of very nice mods done to vessel. but dual Carb single ports are something you just don't see much at all. and I know guys Swede running twin carbs before 71. just wanting to be different lol. and I will be sure to post pix as I go along on this one. again, thanks. |
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sactojesse |
Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:13 pm |
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Your choices for dual carbs for a single port engine are limited to Kadrons (Solex 40/44 EIS, if you can find the no-longer-produced SP manifolds), Weber 34 ICTs, and Solex 34 PDSITs. Stock and stock replacement centermount single barrel carbs typically don't work as duals due to their size and throttle orientation.
Also, if your car is a 1966, it's not considered a "fat chick." That term is typically reserved to the 72-74 ghias with large taillights and large bumpers. Some people will refer to the 70-71 ghias as "fat chicks" as well, but I don't consider them to be. |
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kevin3406 |
Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:38 pm |
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the carbs you mention above, are they single bbl? or would they be 2 bbl carbs (each)? I'm not familiar with those units. also, I believe I could Fab the intakes. and I appreciate. you correcting me on the fatchick thing. I had thought all ghias were fatchicks. apparently I was incorrect. again, thank you for your feedback. I'm anxious to get this rig going just to see if I can.... |
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70 140 |
Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:13 am |
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Dual carb single ports are probably more common than you think. Especially with the type 2 crowd.
Aircooled.net sells a Weber 34ICT kit with SP manifolds, as well as a few other distributors. |
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kevin3406 |
Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:49 am |
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......so I can buy the whole setup and just bolt it on? sweet! I will look into this. thank you |
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kevin3406 |
Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:05 am |
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I went on aircooled.net and couldn't find anything that was eve. close to a dial Carb/single port setup. if a.gone has a link, please post it or mail it to me. thanks volks |
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Derek Cobb |
Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:04 am |
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http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=FSK0001&cartid=1106201118334087
look harder. Here it is |
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kevin3406 |
Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:17 am |
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thanks Derek. I'm kind of new to this samba thing and to computers in general. I clicked the link and bam! the Carb kit showed up! so apparently all I need is to round up 5 c-notes and I'm in business. one of you rich guys buy out all the stuff I have in classifieds and stuff OK? Hahahaha..... |
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c21darrel |
Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:50 pm |
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=953404 |
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sactojesse |
Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:56 pm |
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kevin3406 wrote: the carbs you mention above, are they single bbl? or would they be 2 bbl carbs (each)? I'm not familiar with those units. also, I believe I could Fab the intakes. and I appreciate. you correcting me on the fatchick thing. I had thought all ghias were fatchicks. apparently I was incorrect. again, thank you for your feedback. I'm anxious to get this rig going just to see if I can....
Kadrons (Solex 40/44 EIS), Solex 34 PDSITs, and Weber 34 ICTs are all dual single-barrel carburetors. That's all you'll find that work with a SP engine. |
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kevin3406 |
Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:26 pm |
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thank you to everyone who has posted within this thread. I've learned a lot so far.....1: can't use carbs meant for single Carb applications. 2: twin Carb setups are still readily available from plenty of sources found here on the samba. 3: dual carbs are expensive and 4: I can't afford this right now which leads me to 5: poverty is a bitch lol.... thanks again volks see y'all out on the road somewhere/ someday. |
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ekrossi |
Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:48 am |
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I run a set of Kads on my 1641 single port. They're great. If you search the classifieds, you should be able to find a decent set of carbs and intakes used for less than $500. |
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KIDSPEED |
Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:19 am |
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Yeah, don't put yourself in the poorhouse especially if you are currently using the car & it runs fine with the single it has. The beauty of the dual setup is if tuned properly they are a more efficient design than the stock single. So when you want the extra power it is there, but when driven with fuel consumption in mind will actually deliver better fuel economy. As previously mentioned, if you shop wisely you can find a used pair for a hundred or two but you really need to know what you are looking at so you don't end up buying someone else's junk. My suggestion would be to be patient and keep searching for someone upgrading from a set of recently rebuilt type 3 duals or upgrading from a set of fairly fresh weber 34 icts. Check to see if the seller has good feedback before you purchase so hopefully they are not mis-representing what they're selling.
Another Carb setup not mentioned would be baby dells(AKA dellorto 34s) These are good carbs, if you can find a good pair, and CB performance still sells parts for them. They share the same manifold as the Weber 34.
Finally, do some research in the Vintage speed section of this forum as there is good information there as to what you want to achieve.
-Laurence. |
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Dmelton21 |
Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:56 pm |
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I'm basically looking for the same carb set up. This what I am going with. Single port carb kit from http://www.chircoestore.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=133_460_461&products_id=2891 |
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icemanhd |
Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:45 pm |
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For a true old school setup go with this...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1447031
Of course I'm biased.... I'm selling them |
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djway3474 |
Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:16 pm |
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icemanhd wrote: For a true old school setup go with this...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1447031
Of course I'm biased.... I'm selling them
Can something like these manifolds be adapted to a 36hp for a pair of 30pic's? If not know of anything other than cutting up some old manifolds? I did see one set but they were very crude and need work to be able to use them. |
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scotty timmerman |
Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:48 pm |
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go with some kadrons. i think they are better than 34 icts |
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