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Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:22 pm

So, I know where there is a '49 in original condition that has been sitting in a garage since the '70's......last time I saw it, it was still completely intact. My question is this.....how much should I offer him? He is the father of an old friend of mine....he had a vw shop back in the 70's and traded an old german who was using it as a daily driver. He brought it home and parked in the corner of his home shop.

Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:47 pm

without any pictures, we cannot give you any advice. Too many variables.

Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:04 pm

Email me his address and phone number and I will gladly go check it out and let you know. It would be my pleasure, trust me. :wink:

Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:22 pm

nice one........I won't even tell you what state it's in :lol:

Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:48 pm

Gee you try to help a guy out.. :D

By Samba standards I think you start at $10,000.00 then using a scale of 1 - 10 for condition of the car add $3000.00 per number. I.E. - A split that is say an 8 out ten would be $10,000.00 + (8 x $3000.00) = $34,00.00.

Just my humble opinion derived from observation.

Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:03 am

Just like anything else you let the seller set the price. If he insists you make an offer, shoot the lowest price that won't sound like an insult and dicker like mad.

Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:14 am

ZwitterND wrote: Gee you try to help a guy out.. :D

By Samba standards I think you start at $10,000.00 then using a scale of 1 - 10 for condition of the car add $3000.00 per number. I.E. - A split that is say an 8 out ten would be $10,000.00 + (8 x $3000.00) = $34,00.00.

Just my humble opinion derived from observation.

Bill, that's a pretty good way to do it!

With the 49's (like the 1952's and the early 1955's) they were 6 month only cars making the missing parts that much harder to find. That might up the value or significantly decrease the value for missing parts.

If the VIN and body numbers check out to be an actual 1949, then you should either educate yourself about what the 1949 only parts are and how to identify them, or get a hold of one of us 1949 owners and pick our brains.

For our October 1949, it was nearly complete at first glance but over the years miscellaneous parts had been changed out like one 1950 tail light and one 1949 one for example. Those taillights alone (if you can find them not repro quality) will set you back $1000 or more and still need to be restored.

Finally, you'd best get some pictures of this car posted before asking too many more questions lest you be accused of tire kicking :P

Good luck!

Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:25 am

no tire kicking........I've been after this car for years, and I may getting closer. I just didn't want to insult him with some lame offer

Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:16 am

errhhhh :)

If you don't want to insult him and since he is a father of an old friend of you, then offer for example 20.000 buttttt If you can't afford it, then offer what you can and let him to decide, for example 5000...

This would be very cheap, he would sell cheaper??? who knows but you dont want to bring it home for free I suppose :lol:

So everything was told here, there is many variables, some parts can be missing, others not be the correct for a 49 because can be a pre 49 or later model 49-52 some parts swaped, documents, matching numbers, etc etc can be even a early model 60 with changes from the rear window and dashpod to look a split...I saw some "artists" making this changes, as you said this doesnt seem the case...but who knows without more info everything is possible.

If no pictures or more info then is complicated, try to find out the vin number you don't need to publish all the number or the license plate either open pictures ;) just to see what is there and let us to help you.

This could be even bad for you to tell a price because cannot be the real value of the car. If you can't get all this info and pictures, then as I said before offer him 5000 and let him to decide, I suppose if is a split 49 pre or later or missing parts will value that for sure...

regards.

Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:54 am

Yeah, let's see this badboy! :D

Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:41 am

One more of "I know of something good, what is it worth" threats.
99% of them cause some discussion but die after never pics are coming up to proove the existence.
Let´s wait for pics. Then we know what we are talking about and then any guess of value starts to make sense.

Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:04 pm

Thanks for your help....I'm going to see him next weekend. I'll keep you guys posted

Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:01 pm

72jeff wrote: Thanks for your help....I'm going to see him next weekend. I'll keep you guys posted ..... and will post pics?

Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:04 pm

yes.....I will get pictures

Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:09 pm

LOTS AND LOTS OF PIC'S, OOPS never have enough pics to give ya a fair assessment of the car

Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:44 am

aa390392 wrote: .... never have enough pics to give ya a fair assessment of the car

But one without pics would be way less fair.

Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:53 pm

ZwitterND wrote: Gee you try to help a guy out.. :D

By Samba standards I think you start at $10,000.00 then using a scale of 1 - 10 for condition of the car add $3000.00 per number. I.E. - A split that is say an 8 out ten would be $10,000.00 + (8 x $3000.00) = $34,00.00.

Just my humble opinion derived from observation.

Interesting formula! I tend to want to agree with it, but then.... The car pictured below is sitting behind my barn at the moment. It is an August-'49 car with the small gas tank and all. But/and - surely a condition "1" - would anybody ever pay me 13 grand and haul this relic away?

Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:43 pm

I guess they are going for a little more than the £12.50 (about $15.00 at todays exchange rate) that I paid for 1-101991 in 1972!!

Look on the register for that car now.

Rod

Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:16 pm

SplitPersonality wrote: ZwitterND wrote: Gee you try to help a guy out.. :D

By Samba standards I think you start at $10,000.00 then using a scale of 1 - 10 for condition of the car add $3000.00 per number. I.E. - A split that is say an 8 out ten would be $10,000.00 + (8 x $3000.00) = $34,00.00.

Just my humble opinion derived from observation.

Interesting formula! I tend to want to agree with it, but then.... The car pictured below is sitting behind my barn at the moment. It is an August-'49 car with the small gas tank and all. But/and - surely a condition "1" - would anybody ever pay me 13 grand and haul this relic away?

OOOHHrgh...u really got som job left on that car,has it been a part of a earthquake?

Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:46 pm

ZwitterND wrote: Gee you try to help a guy out.. :D

By Samba standards I think you start at $10,000.00 then using a scale of 1 - 10 for condition of the car add $3000.00 per number. I.E. - A split that is say an 8 out ten would be $10,000.00 + (8 x $3000.00) = $34,00.00.

Just my humble opinion derived from observation.

I guess I'd let my 3 fold split go for $35,000 then.
only needs a nice interior.