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Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:39 am

The case number is -1-0165525 and there is another number at the side 83716
I have asked it on a belgian forum and they are not sure...
could it be that the case is a 25hp from the end of 49 and the engine covers are from a 30hp from the 50's?

Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:59 am

rikske wrote: The case number is -1-0165525 and there is another number at the side 83716
I have asked it on a belgian forum and they are not sure...
could it be that the case is a 25hp from the end of 49 and the engine covers are from a 30hp from the 50's?[img]

Is that a side draft carb? :lol:

Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:17 am

may 1950

Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:41 am

looks like :lol:
the layout of the pics are crap to :shock:
sorry :?

Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:52 am

rikske wrote: The case number is -1-0165525 and there is another number at the side 83716
I have asked it on a belgian forum and they are not sure...
could it be that the case is a 25hp from the end of 49 and the engine covers are from a 30hp from the 50's?

Definitely an industrial engine.

P.S. Wanted to add more than just the picture format clean up. :)

Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:31 am

the cylinder tins are definitely 36hp.

Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:14 pm

What is the extra pump looking thing driven by the crank in front?

Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:18 pm

VWKDF wrote:
Definitely an industrial engine.

It was obviously used as an industrial engine.
But the case number is a beetle car engines number.

Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:37 pm

usariemen wrote: VWKDF wrote:
Definitely an industrial engine.

It was obviously used as an industrial engine.
But the case number is a beetle car engines number.

Whoops, looks can be decieving.
I was trying to add a quick something to the photo clean up.
I should have looked at what I was cleaning up more.

Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:47 pm

The number on the side could be a VW KD rebuild number.
I have just cleaned a 48/49 case for a friend, and his has a KD number on the side of the generator pedestal.

Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:01 am

This case looks the same as the one Ihave
also a number at the side and the casenumber is also above the "zundfolge"

Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:33 am

Definitely an industrial engine. The part on the pulley is the engine speed governor.

Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:45 am

Motorhead55 wrote: Definitely an industrial engine. The part on the pulley is the engine speed governor.

As I said. It is completely equiped as and was used as an
industrial engine. On a water pump or where ever.
But the case started its live with a cars engine number and will be
a pure car engine when the industrial engine stuff is removed.
Industrial engines have a number starting with a 122-......

Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:56 am

IN2VWS wrote: The number on the side could be a VW KD rebuild number.
I have just cleaned a 48/49 case for a friend, and his has a KD number on the side of the generator pedestal.

By KD do you mean knock down? Why would the engine have a second number?

Cheers,

Dave

Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:31 pm

KD == Kundendienst

bally wrote: IN2VWS wrote: The number on the side could be a VW KD rebuild number.
I have just cleaned a 48/49 case for a friend, and his has a KD number on the side of the generator pedestal.

By KD do you mean knock down? Why would the engine have a second number?

Cheers,

Dave

Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:16 pm

Engines stamped with 'KD' numbers, are factory exchange engines. Hence the second number.
KD engines were from VW in Germany.
KDA engines were from VW Australia.
KDS engines were from Sweden.

Not sure if there were any others.

Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:57 pm

IN2VWS wrote: Engines stamped with 'KD' numbers, are factory exchange engines. Hence the second number.
KD engines were from VW in Germany.
KDA engines were from VW Australia.
KDS engines were from Sweden.

Not sure if there were any others.

Most interesting, thanks guys.

I'm looking at a KDS engine next weekend - would it still have it's original number too? Is there a way of dating the 'exchange' date for the engine?

Cheers,

Dave

Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:15 pm

bally wrote: IN2VWS wrote: Engines stamped with 'KD' numbers, are factory exchange engines. Hence the second number.
KD engines were from VW in Germany.
KDA engines were from VW Australia.
KDS engines were from Sweden.

Not sure if there were any others.

Most interesting, thanks guys.

I'm looking at a KDS engine next weekend - would it still have it's original number too? Is there a way of dating the 'exchange' date for the engine?

Cheers,

Dave

To my knowledge, there is no dating system for the exchange engines.
Later exchange engines had the original engine numbers ground off, and the KD* number stamped over it.

Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:59 pm

IN2VWS wrote: To my knowledge, there is no dating system for the exchange engines.
Later exchange engines had the original engine numbers ground off, and the KD* number stamped over it.

Most interesting, thanks. The one I'm off to see is most likely a later exchange then given that I've not been given two numbers, just the KDS number. I'll find out on Friday. Can you define 'later' in this context please? Would that be later in the 50s or into the 60s or 70s? At what point did VW stop offering factory rebuilt 25 horse engines?

Cheers,

Dave

Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:55 pm

Hi,
I’ve posted a similar question in the Performance - Engines/Transmissions section, but a friend of mine found this post and part of the answer, so I will post my question here. After reading the comments it seems that earlier cases kept the original number and the KD number was stamped at the side, while in later cases the new number was stamped over the original one, like in the picture below.

What do you think about this one? According to the owner it’s a 1200 cc 40 hp from 1967.

It has only one id number but it does not seem there was an “original id” ground off as in the first picture. It seems this is the first number stamped on it.

Any idea of the year of manufacture of this engine?

Dave, could you post a picture of the one with the KDS number?
Many thanks for your help.
Regards
Gabriel