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Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:57 am

Hi,
can you tell me when the single exhaust pipe was exchanged to a double one?

Thanks

Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:50 am

Hello Mounty.
I believe it was in August of 1955 For the 1956 model. This is when the factory made cut outs for dual "piece shooter"exhaust. Many many many changes were made this year and that was one of them. Hope this helps.

Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:19 am

I have a '55 oval with VIN number 1-0863978 (production approximately March '55) with double exhaust pipe.
So my muffler is not correct?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:38 am

SRM1956 is correct if you have a March 1955 oval you should have a single tip exhaust and your apron should NOT have cut outs for two exhausts. Check for that, that is more important than whether you have one of two tips. Its very possible that a PO installed a 2 tip replacement muffler at some point due to it being easier to locate.

Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:25 am

srm1956 wrote: Hello Mounty.
I believe it was in August of 1955 For the 1956 model. This is when the factory made cut outs for dual "piece shooter"exhaust. Many many many changes were made this year and that was one of them. Hope this helps.

Its "pea shooter" NOT "piece shooter"

Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:31 am

ovalteen wrote: srm1956 wrote: Hello Mounty.
I believe it was in August of 1955 For the 1956 model. This is when the factory made cut outs for dual "piece shooter"exhaust. Many many many changes were made this year and that was one of them. Hope this helps.

Its "pea shooter" NOT "piece shooter"

Years ago when I first got my oval I go a auto store to pick up some oil and the older guy at the counter spots the bug and asks the typical questions and then asks, "does it have dualies?" I'm sure I gave him a look of bewilderment for a moment as I didn't instantly realize that he was asking if it had pea shooters.

Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:15 am

Funny stuff. As we digress even further, I pull up to a local car show the other night and park next to a 66 TBird. He tells me I need a new exhaust its too loud. :roll:

Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:08 am

OK, I'll bite and go even further. 66 T-bird? Likely had a V8 in excess of 400 ci, "dualies" and likely glass packs or something like that. Guy was likely just jealous of your ride and being a hater. Or maybe he mistook your son making a fweem-ish sound kind of like doing a motore boat for the actual exhaust.

Back to point,
ProgRefinements engine section page 4-Aug-55 Muffler: Now: single chamber, with 2 exhaust tail pipes and connecting pipe for pre-heating tube. Interesting that I don't see any mention of the apron in the body section.

Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:27 am

L378 wrote: OK, I'll bite and go even further. 66 T-bird? Likely had a V8 in excess of 400 ci, "dualies" and likely glass packs or something like that. Guy was likely just jealous of your ride and being a hater. Or maybe he mistook your son making a fweem-ish sound kind of like doing a motore boat for the actual exhaust.

As I get out of the car he tells me to "watch my door". Like I am going to dent his 9ft long body panels. Dude what about my door? Pretty sure you don't have to say those types of things at a "car" show. What an idiot. Ok back to topic sorry guys. :lol:

Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:23 pm

Here is a pic of a single tip for my 55 rag
but , I will go 4 tipp
, nice ride dont care much for the T-bird :lol:

Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:46 pm

A bus tail pipe...

55 ragger wrote: Here is a pic of a single tip for my 55 rag
but , I will go 4 tipp
, nice ride dont care much for the T-bird :lol:

Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:40 am

Im hopping not !!
Not that is matters Im going four tipp !!
Really dont think its a bus, it for a 36 hp have the rest of it.
cheers , nos single tip
Rob

Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:44 am

It could be used on either a bug or bus. Look at WW website under 25-36 hp muffler for both bug and bus and you see the tip
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111251165B same part # comes up under the single tip bug muffler.

Photo from the barndoor gallery of a muffler w/ tip

your bug will look great sporting it.

Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:54 am

55 ragger wrote: Im hopping not !!
Not that is matters Im going four tipp !!
Really dont think its a bus, it for a 36 hp have the rest of it.
cheers , nos single tip
Rob

For reference, this tip was used on Buses in 1959 only.

Earlier Buses had a shorter tip.

Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:18 am

My bad, I didn't pick up that the WW 25-36 hp exhaust tip does NOT have a bend to it. It's a straight tip that goes from round to square. Still listed under both bus & bug however - whether that's right or not.

Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:31 pm

Everett beat me to it...the tip you need for a pre-55' exhaust is the oval circle tip. Not as easy to find as the 59' bus tip, which I actually think is cooler looking, but not correct. CIP has one that is pretty close to OG, but I haven't tried to fit it on a stock pre-55' exhaust.

https://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D111%2D251%2D165%2DB

Sucks about the T-bird owners attitude. Thunderbird owners are equal to Corvette owners in my mind. Probably just jealous of the VW's factory dual exhaust!! :lol: