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Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:55 pm

Oposite of starter side,what type of bolt/head is used in a latter 1600 engine. It appears that this bolt has a threaded insert in the engine case.........Im new and I dont understand.....The transmission case has a v casting in the case............so it dosent make since to thread a bolt through the bellhousing? Pleae help/explain. I have a 60 panel w/type 3 tranny and a 1915cc. motor.

Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:27 pm

JohnnyRingo wrote: Oposite of starter side,what type of bolt/head is used in a latter 1600 engine. It appears that this bolt has a threaded insert in the engine case.........Im new and I dont understand.....The transmission case has a v casting in the case............so it dosent make since to thread a bolt through the bellhousing? Pleae help/explain. I have a 60 panel w/type 3 tranny and a 1915cc. motor.

Hello... and welcome to TheSamba. :D

Have a look at these two Gallery searches below, the first is from hazetguy's Gallery, and it shows what you're dealing with in the case itself. (Only the first four photo's):
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?...t_dir=DESC

This second link, from TS member cdennisg, shows a very nice way to simplify the task that you are referring to here.

cdennisg wrote: This is what I use for the top engine bolt on the driver's side of type 1 based engines. To remove the standard style hex head bolt, I replace the 6mm allen head socket with a 17mm six-point. But I always replace that bolt with a socket head cap screw. It makes engine R&R much easier. The stack of extensions puts the ratchet handle just below the tranny horn on the driver's side. That black section is a universal joint, wrapped in tape to stiffen it a little. I also have one of those allen head sockets in my traveling tool kit, just in case. This could also work as a theft deterrent, I suppose.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?...t_dir=DESC

I hope this helps man, and once again.... welcome. :wink:

Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:28 pm

Well I just knocked the v casting off with a dremmel tool......and used stock case hardend bolt......thanks again for the suggstions,I didnt even think about an allen head bolt.

Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:44 pm

Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:46 pm

^^^^ I like that idea alot !!! :) =D> =D> =D>

Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:53 pm

fresno james wrote: ^^^^ I like that idea alot !!! :) =D> =D> =D>
Hi James! :D

This application is for a NON-dog house set-up... from Eric and Barb.

Dude has a later case and cooler....

(You gonna be at Madera, James? It'd be good to see you... 8) )

Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:17 pm

Busryder wrote:

(You gonna be at Madera, James? It'd be good to see you... 8) )

Oh hell yeah !!!! \:D/ 8) :D

I know it's probably been since last madera show !!! :-k

Happy B- day to you also !!! :)

See ya' this weekend bro' always a pleasure to chill 8) :wink:

(ok end thread jack .. LOL )

Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:33 pm

fresno james wrote: ^^^^ I like that idea alot !!! :) =D> =D> =D>
Fres - no?
Fres - Yes!

anyhoo, that tranny and engine were not installed together in the same car at the factory. the usual mismatch.

In that situation I've used a couple fat washers, notched them with my grinding wheel to fit into the V in the tranny. Then I can fit the regular hex head bolt on there.

You can glue them to the tranny case with your favorite glue or bubblegum or silicon if it makes you happy.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:07 am

Fres .. YES !!! .... I like that :wink:

I've used the washer idea quite a few times Clara .... That works pretty well in most cases with the mis-match thing

The allenhead bolt is very cool though also 8) I think I like that way the best so far ... Gonna keep a few on hand from now on

Although adding the bubblegum in the fix would probably be more proper with the john muir line of thinking/macgyver for that fix imo ..... LOL :lol:

Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:18 am

Busryder wrote:
This application is for a NON-dog house set-up... from Eric and Barb.

Yet we use it with our type 4 cooler adapted dog house shroud!
Install engine, put on the washer and nut. Then install the exhaust tube and shell from the cooler.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:37 am

Busryder wrote:

This application is for a NON-dog house set-up... from Eric and Barb.

Dude has a later case and cooler....

I know I just wanted to add some insanity to this thread.