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Sat May 19, 2012 11:35 am

Now that I finished installing an AC Industries disc brake kit on the front of my Baja Bug, it's time to fix the rear brakes.

My car is equipped with Bus reduction boxes, so there is no disc brake kit available for the rear.

My rear shoes are soaked in gear oil on the driver's side. I need to replace the seals and shoes on both sides.

I'd like to find better than stock shoes for the rear. Something that grabs better and stops the car faster. I remember some company offering shoes with better material years ago, but I don't know who that was. It was some sort of woven metallic stuff.

Anyone know of a place that makes better brake shoes? My car has 1962 Bus rear brakes.

Sat May 19, 2012 12:59 pm

Aircooled.net or their better website vwparts.aircooled.net have them "super stopper" ones i think

Sat May 19, 2012 4:57 pm

I just checked their web site. They seem to offer the "Super Stopper" shoes for just about every application except for mine.

I sent them an email to find out if they have them, but are just not listed on the site.

Sat May 19, 2012 7:12 pm

you can fit Type 3 rear brakes to a reduction box rear end. check the split bus forum

Sat May 19, 2012 9:21 pm

Kymcos sells a shoe called better binder. Not sure if they have one for your app. Listed here on Samba classifieds . Search for better binder

Sun May 20, 2012 1:59 pm

carbotech shoes,
we run them on our FV's stop like crazy.
$$$ though
vee racers call then "the green shoes" they custom make them, you have to give drum id.

Sun May 20, 2012 2:48 pm

Long ago we used to run shoes that were this almost soft black crud interwoven with a fiberglass like weave. They gripped like crazy, dusted even worse and wore fast. But they would lock up fast!

Mon May 21, 2012 10:11 am

Mal evolent wrote: you can fit Type 3 rear brakes to a reduction box rear end. check the split bus forum

Not really...

type 3 brakes are typically used when going to Bug stuff in the back. You can put them on but you'd have to have some custom spacer type deal as the type 3 drums will be too short for the stub.

You can put 944 rear disks on a RGB rear end, machining is required of the bearing housing and you'd have to run another custom spacer.

Maybe search locally for someone who relines shoes?

I would replace axle seals, get new shoes, and adjust the brakes really really tight.

Mon May 21, 2012 12:53 pm

Quote: ...adjust the brakes really really tight.

When I do my brakes, I adjust each pad out at a time until, both pads, are absolutely maxed out and then back off about 3 turns. I find a full, no play pedal, and amazing stopping power and not too much brake dust.

Mon May 21, 2012 2:59 pm

FV195 wrote: carbotech shoes,
we run them on our FV's stop like crazy.
$$$ though
vee racers call then "the green shoes" they custom make them, you have to give drum id.

Wow! They are expensive!

I looked here:
http://www.ctbrakes.com/pads.asp?Make=Volkswagen

I found just about every application except the one I need.

Mon May 21, 2012 3:09 pm

[quote="thefladge"] FV195 wrote: carbotech shoes,
we run them on our FV's stop like crazy.
$$$ though
vee racers call then "the green shoes" they custom make them, you have to give drum id.

Wow! They are expensive!

I looked here:
http://www.ctbrakes.com/pads.asp?Make=Volkswagen

I found just about every application except the one I need.
I said they were pricy, but they do work. adj. is differant. thet swell when hot. will stop like you wouldn't beleve! pull your eyes out

Mon May 21, 2012 8:27 pm

That might be more than I need.

Maybe I will check with Kymco to see if they have the Bus shoes I need.

Mon May 21, 2012 9:32 pm

you could have the type 2 shoes relined :D

Tue May 22, 2012 8:11 am

I am not sure how well the carbotech shoes work on the street. If I remember correctly, they work best when heated (racing).

Tue May 22, 2012 10:18 am

QRP wrote: you could have the type 2 shoes relined :D

That's true. Maybe I can find a place locally that does that.

Wed May 23, 2012 8:40 am

[email protected] wrote: I am not sure how well the carbotech shoes work on the street. If I remember correctly, they work best when heated (racing).

They're fine even on the first stop in winter, certainly better than stock shoes anyway. They are pricey but then they outlast standard shoes in heavy use IME.