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grandpa pete Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:03 pm

I went to napa for a new torque wrench and bought a $250.00 + wrench for $74.00. the guy behind the counter told me NAPA is changing the brand name on their in house tool line and EVERYTHING will be sold at 70% off...the ads go out next week BUT the price reduction is in the computer system as of today....HAPPY HUNTING :D

could one of you computer hot shots get this info to the other samba forums or would i have to type it out 16 times :roll:.....thanks

Wildthings Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:51 pm

NAPA, National Automotive Parts Association :wink:

grandpa pete Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:54 pm

:oops: thanks

skills@eurocarsplus Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:29 pm

Wildthings wrote: NAPA, National Automotive Parts Association :wink:

Never Any Parts Available

Desertbusman Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:53 pm

grandpa pete wrote: I went to napa for a new torque wrench and bought a $250.00 + wrench for $74.00. the guy behind the counter told me NAPA is changing the brand name on their in house tool line and EVERYTHING will be sold at 70% off...the ads go out next week BUT the price reduction is in the computer system as of today....HAPPY HUNTING :D

could one of you computer hot shots get this info to the other samba forums or would i have to type it out 16 times :roll:.....thanks

You sure the $250 wasn't a 350% markup from a $74 list price?? That's a lot of coin for a wrench unless you are building spacecraft for NASA.
When you were here did you use my $30 Craftsman beam wrench? It's a nice one. If I had known you wanted a torque wrench I'd have given you an almost unused Harbor Freight clicker wrench. Might have even paid you to take it. :oops:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-1076198.html That's all I could find out about the NAPA 70% liquidation right now. But Google search for NAPA liquidation has a bit more info.

If it was a big torque wrench you needed for axle nuts or the gland nut you cold put a "Stand Here" mark on your breaker bar right at xx" out from the socket. My mark is further out from the socket than your mark would be. :P

skills@eurocarsplus Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:17 pm

i prefer a little more accuracy

http://www.flexibleassembly.com/Products/Electronic-Torque-Wrenches/502CF-ii

this is the big girl one

http://www.flexibleassembly.com/Products/Electronic-Torque-Wrenches/6004CF-ii

most will never spend that kind of money but i did

reidcloud Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:28 pm

Other than Snap On, can anyone name a tool that isn't made by Danaher? I was in a presentation that was put on by a Danaher representative in 2006. At the time, they produced Mac, Matco, Craftsman, Armstrong, Cornwell, Stanley, Proto, S-K, GearWrench, Balkamp, NAPA, and every generic Taiwanese tool made. I wouldn't be surprised if they made most of the Blue Point stuff these days.

reidcloud Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:35 pm

It looks like they also produce Allen and Kobalt. Also Fluke and Tektronic.

grandpa pete Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:46 pm

DBM yes i am making a spaceship!!! i'm getting rid of a vert to MAKE :lol: SPACE for my next project. I have TWO cheap torque wrenches that are both BROKE...time for a good commercial grade one ...If you are real nice i might let you use it if you ever get stuck in ST. Pete :shock:

aryue Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:52 pm

CDI - way back in its analog dial days - produced torque wrenches for Snap-on.

Most folks who work on only Japanese makes are stunned when they see a 3/4" drive wrench that is over 30 inches long.

- Andrew in Austin, TX -

Wildthings Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:58 pm

grandpa pete wrote: DBM yes i am making a spaceship!!! i'm getting rid of a vert to MAKE :lol: SPACE for my next project. I have TWO cheap torque wrenches that are both BROKE...time for a good commercial grade one ...If you are real nice i might let you use it if you ever get stuck in ST. Pete :shock:

A lot of 1/2 drive torque wrenches go up to 250 ft*lbs. That is too much for typical 1/2 drive tool. Best to not use a 1/2 drive to torque anything requiring more than 200 ft*lbs. This includes some pretty high end brands.

As DBM says you don't need a torque wrench to do axle nuts. Just measure out far enough on a bar to get the minimum required torque (240 ft*lbs for a Bay and 360 ft*lbs for a Vanagon) and then apply whatever additional force is require to move the nut to the next available slot. You may well end up with a torque in the 600 ft*lb range.

reidcloud Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:12 pm

It's funny, I snapped the end off of an 18" long 1/2" drive breaker bar while rebuilding the front differential on a Range Rover. My Snap On guy initially refused to warranty the tool, saying that I should have used a heavier grade tool. I agreed, thinking that he was referring to a 3/4" breaker bar. His answer was a 24" 1/2" drive bar. After arguing about leverage, I ended up with the longer bar by just paying the difference between that and the shorter.

Wildthings Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:21 pm

I certainly used to snap my fair share of 1/2 drive tools, but then I bought a cheapy 3/4" drive set to do the big stuff. Pretty much took care of the breakage problem.

Tram Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:23 pm

reidcloud wrote: Other than Snap On, can anyone name a tool that isn't made by Danaher? I was in a presentation that was put on by a Danaher representative in 2006. At the time, they produced Mac, Matco, Craftsman, Armstrong, Cornwell, Stanley, Proto, S-K, GearWrench, Balkamp, NAPA, and every generic Taiwanese tool made. I wouldn't be surprised if they made most of the Blue Point stuff these days.

Let's see.. Stahlwille, Heyco, Dowidat, Hazet, Peiseler... You know, the real tools. Like Gary. :D

reidcloud Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:32 pm

Heyco is owned by Stanley.

Tram Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:46 pm

reidcloud wrote: Heyco is owned by Stanley.

Really? Hmmm, nobody at Heyco seems to have gotten that memo...

http://www.heyco.de/_EN/geschichte.html

reidcloud Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:48 pm

I don't really understand the appeal of Stahlwille or Hazet, anymore. I liked their old tools, but I'm not really impressed by anything that I've seen in the last ten years. I get the impression that the Germans are outsourcing tool manufacturing to Asia, just like everyone else. Knipex is getting kind of cheap looking, too.

Tram Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:59 pm

reidcloud wrote: I don't really understand the appeal of Stahlwille or Hazet, anymore. I liked their old tools, but I'm not really impressed by anything that I've seen in the last ten years. I get the impression that the Germans are outsourcing tool manufacturing to Asia, just like everyone else. Knipex is getting kind of cheap looking, too.

Wait- Aren't they all owned by Stanley?

reidcloud Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:59 pm

I think the older Danaher catalog listed Heyco with Facom under the Stanley wing. I was told by the Fastenal representative that if it's a hand tool, and Fastenal sells it, it's part of Danaher. I could be wrong. I'll try to dig out the catalogs.

Tram Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:04 pm

reidcloud wrote: I think the older Danaher catalog listed Heyco with Facom under the Stanley wing. I was told by the Fastenal representative that if it's a hand tool, and Fastenal sells it, it's part of Danaher. I could be wrong. I'll try to dig out the catalogs.

They were likely just certain specialty tools not carried by Fastenal/ Danaher, but were requested a lot and therefore purchased by Fastenal to fill a hole in their catalog. Snap- On carried specialty tools by Knipex, Assenmacher, Stahlwille, etc. on a special- order basis, but that doesn't mean these companies were owned by Snap-On.

You really believe everything sales reps tell you? :lol:



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