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Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:59 pm

Has anyone sprayed fluid film under all the window seals on their Van?
Almost all the ones I have removed the windows from had some degree of rust and some were really in trouble.

I'm thinking the fluid film would really help and last a long time out of the elements.

From what I've heard it is safe on rubber.

Any thoughts?

Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:02 pm

Syncro Jael wrote: Has anyone sprayed fluid film under all the window seals on their Van?
Almost all the ones I have removed the windows from had some degree of rust and some were really in trouble.

I'm thinking the fluid film would really help and last a long time out of the elements.

From what I've heard it is safe on rubber.

Any thoughts?

I've read that it does not last very long and no one knows the long term effects of breathing in those nanoparticles. Of course, sealed off behind the seal, it might last plenty long. But I wonder if even a respirator could filter the stuff out. It is 'nano' after all.

Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:25 pm

Fluid film will cause some swelling of rubber products, but I haven't experienced any actual damage to the rubber surfaces.

HUH? nano particles? never heard that.
Fluid film is a lanolin based product developed in the 40s for military balast tanks on submarines & boats.
but aside from that..
Fluid Film.com wrote: Our Commitment to the Environment

FLUID FILM products are solvent free and consist of an all natural lanolin base, which contain less than 1% VOC in their bulk form.

Remaining solvent free since the original formulation in 1943, the FLUID FILM product line is made of the highest quality corrosion preventives and lubricants available on the market today.

FLUID FILM, when used on cutting devices, will not burn greenery

Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:27 pm

dixoncj wrote: Syncro Jael wrote: Has anyone sprayed fluid film under all the window seals on their Van?
Almost all the ones I have removed the windows from had some degree of rust and some were really in trouble.

I'm thinking the fluid film would really help and last a long time out of the elements.

From what I've heard it is safe on rubber.

Any thoughts?

I've read that it does not last very long and no one knows the long term effects of breathing in those nanoparticles. Of course, sealed off behind the seal, it might last plenty long. But I wonder if even a respirator could filter the stuff out. It is 'nano' after all.

nanoparticles???? It is lanolin based....

Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:36 pm

Ive used it on spots of rust starting under window gaskets without any complications.

Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:09 pm

When I sprayed Fluid Film on my Protege5 the rubber drip hole seals swelled up and fell out.

Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:23 pm

Great idea, I'll spray some tomorrow.

Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:29 pm

we've applied it as a test to a raw shiney metal patch on my buddies ford ranger thru a NYS salt induced winter.. was still wet and unrusted in the spring..
I'd say in protected areas it's quite tenacious and will remain for some time.

Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:27 pm

Well I took a narrow plastic putty knife, slid it under the windshield rubber seal on the outside. Then took an arosal can of fluid film with the small tube applicator and followed the putty knife around the seal. It was interesting the debris that the fluid film displaced as it bubbled out under the rubber seal. Then I just wiped off the excess. I did all the seals in about 15 minutes. I can't imagine this wouldn't help preserve the metal from future moisture and rust.

I will watch and report if anything might be affected.

Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:16 pm

Syncro Jael wrote: Well I took a narrow plastic putty knife...

You mean a nano plastic putty knife? :D

Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:51 pm

Fluid film never tried but interesting idea.
I just redid a windshield seal. Took the seam to bare metal -> POR-15 -> primer 2x, paint 4x, clear 2x then 3m bedding compound (great stuff) and new VC seal. Added extra thin layer of bedding compound to outer lip makes it impenetrable. Now gotta do the rest of seals. :-k

Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:53 am

it'll help to displace water and salt but remember to clean it out and replace it periodically.

Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:24 am

Fluid Film! I pour that on my cereal every morning! :D
It's what I spray as a commercial undercoating/ rust prevention program. I use hundreds of litres per year, for more than 20 years. The product will not affect plastic or rubber un non aerosol form. The rattle can is a different story, it's thinned with something so it'll spray better. I wouldn't spray it under the window rubbers but I have dipped a brush in my drum and slopped some on. Beware that it'll creep, so you'll always see a bit, and it'll creep inside too, so the fabric around your windows will eventually stain.
Jeff

Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:29 am

NYS salt induced winter?

that is all salt built up just from driving on our salty roads.

Jeff-

You buy fluid film by the drum? what do you use to spray it?

Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:49 am

I buy it 20l pails. If you order it make sure it's NAS, not exactly sure what that means, but my supplier always asks...I use 2 different guns, both are proper under coating guns, one just has a wand to reach the hard areas of trucks, frame rails, etc. the other is a flood gun for everything you see.
Jeff

Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:56 am

I would think the heat build up during a hot summer day with the windows closed will cause it to burst into flame as it reaches it's melting point!
Sorry...too much coffee! :lol:

Nah...but I think it will dry up and you will have to re-apply it at the end of season and before the start of winter so it will flow and not congeal in the cold.

Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:20 am

The manufacturer says this…

Quote: Will FLUID FILM adversely affect plastic or rubber?
FLUID FILM has no adverse effects on plastics. Caution should be used around non oil-resistant rubber goods. May cause swelling.

NAS is non-aerosol (no solvents, comes in a pail) and I think that the "A" means Liquid A type, i.e. the same type that is in the rattle can (AS). There are other types of Fluid Film for other applications, which is why the supplier is asking what it is for.

I have used the spray can Fluid Film to stop rust under the window seals of a Multivan for about 3 years, while I decide what its future will be. The rubber in that area appears to be more pliable, and maybe a little softer. You can clearly see where the rubber has complied to the rust pattern underneath. But nothing that I would call deterioration or damage, or swelling, in fact it might actually work to improve the seal on old hard rubber. I don't think it hurts, in my case, anyway.

RonC

Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:30 am

Ive got a 1978 Honda CB750 F2 and it has a bare steel gas tank, I spray a bit of fluid film on it and it never rusts. I spray it once or twice a summer and it is fine driving in the rain and baking in the sun. The stuff works great

Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:38 am

snowsyncro wrote: The manufacturer says this…

Quote: Will FLUID FILM adversely affect plastic or rubber?
FLUID FILM has no adverse effects on plastics. Caution should be used around non oil-resistant rubber goods. May cause swelling.

NAS is non-aerosol (no solvents, comes in a pail) and I think that the "A" means Liquid A type, i.e. the same type that is in the rattle can (AS). There are other types of Fluid Film for other applications, which is why the supplier is asking what it is for.

I have used the spray can Fluid Film to stop rust under the window seals of a Multivan for about 3 years, while I decide what its future will be. The rubber in that area appears to be more pliable, and maybe a little softer. You can clearly see where the rubber has complied to the rust pattern underneath. But nothing that I would call deterioration or damage, or swelling, in fact it might actually work to improve the seal on old hard rubber. I don't think it hurts, in my case, anyway.

RonC
I was pretty sure that's what it stood for... Thanks, Ron.
Thanks for helping to move the outhouse too!!! :lol:
Jeff

Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:47 am

snowsyncro wrote: The manufacturer says this…

Quote: Will FLUID FILM adversely affect plastic or rubber?
FLUID FILM has no adverse effects on plastics. Caution should be used around non oil-resistant rubber goods. May cause swelling.

NAS is non-aerosol (no solvents, comes in a pail) and I think that the "A" means Liquid A type, i.e. the same type that is in the rattle can (AS). There are other types of Fluid Film for other applications, which is why the supplier is asking what it is for.

I have used the spray can Fluid Film to stop rust under the window seals of a Multivan for about 3 years, while I decide what its future will be. The rubber in that area appears to be more pliable, and maybe a little softer. You can clearly see where the rubber has complied to the rust pattern underneath. But nothing that I would call deterioration or damage, or swelling, in fact it might actually work to improve the seal on old hard rubber. I don't think it hurts, in my case, anyway.

RonC

Yes, solvent free in the bulk pails.
I buy 5lbs and 20 lbs pails.

There are thicker versions available in bulk.
One has wool fibers in it...awesome stuff and lasts longer.
Thank you sheep :lol: