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Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:56 am

Does anyone know a Ford year and model that uses the same tie rods that we use on a Dunebuggy so I could get them from a local auto parts store. Thank you

Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:04 am

You can buy tie rods in alum. Steel, chromemoly and ford ends from most vw off road suppliers. Check the ads here. Tie rods come in any length you need, L or R hand thread.
Hth

Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:20 pm

I used these,
I went for the alum tie rods but the steel ones cost less.
The tie rod ends have a 7 deg taper.
Also these tie rod ends are larger than stock vw.
I don't think ford has a direct replacement tie rod for a vw (I could be wrong).
Norm

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/AFCO-30211-GM-Tie-Rod-End-LH-Thread,40953.html
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/AFCO-30212-GM-Tie-Rod-End-RH-Thread,40954.html
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Aluminum-Tie-Rod-Sleeve-3-4-Inch-Thread,2086.html
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Swedged-Steel-Tube-3-4-Inch-Thread,2091.html

Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:59 pm

Thank for the help. I have the aluminum ones now just need to replace the outers. Just thought they were actual Ford tie rods.

Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:00 pm

did you mean to post GM tie rod ends?

this might help also

http://www.sacoperformance.com/search.php?nobox=&a...=&pg=1

Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:59 am

flashho wrote: did you mean to post GM tie rod ends?

this might help also

http://www.sacoperformance.com/search.php?nobox=&a...=&pg=1

I know it said GM.
They have the 7 deg taper that matches the combo spindles that I have.
They were in the catalog that Speedway sent me for oval track.
They had the correct taper, lenght and thread size so I order them.
Just glad they fit. :lol:
Norm

Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:52 am

That is good to know as I have a similar set up. Thanks!

Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:40 pm

Hi, what i have found is you can use an old 1964 FORD F250 Part # ES416L / ES416R (Left or Right) or #ES150L / ES150R

You can Crossrefernce to ACDelco and Raybestos Part Numbers.

Double check the different Thread Size, between 3/4 and 11/16, at your local auto parts store when you pick them up.

The ES416 is the 11/16 and the ES150's are 3/4

Or Buy Online for around 6-11$

other Vehicals that use these Tie Rod Ends are:

FORD COUNTRY SQUIRE (1955 - 1960)
FORD CRESTLINE9 (1954 )
FORD CUSTOM (1950 - 1951)
FORD CUSTOMLINE (1954 - 1956)
FORD DELUXE (1946 - 1948)
FORD ECONOLINE (1961 - 1963)
FORD F-100 (1953 - 1964)
FORD F-250 (1953 - 1964)
FORD F1 (1948 - 1952)
FORD F2 (1948 - 1952)
FORD F3 (1948 - 1952)
FORD F4 (1948 - 1952)
FORD FAIRLANE (1955 - 1960)
FORD GALAXIE (1960 )
FORD MAINLINE (1954 - 1956)
FORD P-100 (1965 - 1967)
FORD RANCH WAGON (1955 - 1960)
FORD STATION BUS (1962 - 1963)
FORD SUPER DELUXE (1946 - 1948)
INTERNATIONAL C100 (1961 - 1962)
INTERNATIONAL C1000 (1963 - 1964)
INTERNATIONAL C102 (1961 - 1962)
MERCURY MERCURY (1946 - 1948)

Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:29 pm

Hey Potatoe:

thanx for the informative post!

Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:49 pm

I did search and did not find a answer, so this thread looked to have the best info.

On the tie rods for a ford or international, or GM, does the right inner tie rod have a way to hook up a steering stabilizer? Or what do you do for a steering stabilizer?

My Fiberglass buggy will get driven a lot on the highway and a lot off road, and I will be running a 31 inch tall front tire.

Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:20 pm

Pretty sure GM tie rods have an eye cast into them for a stabilizer and ford needs a mount similar to this http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/R1717.html

Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:23 pm

A damper clamp was the most common way to use a steering damper with larger diameter 1in tie rods.
They were a piece of tubing slit so it fit loose over tie rod and to tighten it in place it had bosses welded on for a pinch bolt. To mount damper a 12mm bolt was welded to it.
I used Bus (type II) damper.

Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:18 am

ES-150 tie rod ends are pretty big, I don't think I would ream a VW steering arm for one, I have used them as lower ball joints on a Datsun 510 before on custom lower control arms, they are very heavy duty.

Casey

Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:19 pm

I've been using them for decades. I prefer to have a gusset added around the outer circumference of the tie rod end eye on the steering arm and pitman arm.

This is for 416s. Made of 1/4" cold rolled plate. I've never broken out an eye. I HAVE broken a tie rod end and have bent 1" x .250 wall 4130 rods into pretzels. Then used the same spindles and pitman arm for many years after.

Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:21 pm

dustymojave wrote: I've been using them for decades. I prefer to have a gusset added around the outer circumference of the tie rod end eye on the steering arm and pitman arm.

This is for 416s. Made of 1/4" cold rolled plate. I've never broken out an eye. I HAVE broken a tie rod end and have bent 1" x .250 wall 4130 rods into pretzels. Then used the same spindles and pitman arm for many years after.

That is my exact intention. And to strengthen the spindle at the tie rod hole in a similar fashion.

Thanks for the picture!

Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:30 pm

dustymojave wrote: I've been using them for decades. I prefer to have a gusset added around the outer circumference of the tie rod end eye on the steering arm and pitman arm.

This is for 416s. Made of 1/4" cold rolled plate. I've never broken out an eye. I HAVE broken a tie rod end and have bent 1" x .250 wall 4130 rods into pretzels. Then used the same spindles and pitman arm for many years after.

Man, I wish I would have cut some of those gussets out when I was running the water jet at my last job.

Casey

Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:09 pm

That would have been cool. This one is flame cut.

The bolt hole was reamed out and the 12mm coarse thread 8.8 bolt replaced with a 1/2" fine thread Grade 8 bolt. Much stronger bolt. I've stretched the stock bolt and stripped the splines. Never had an issue with the 1/2" bolt. Be sure to use a fine thread, as the minimum cross section of the bolt is much larger than a coarse thread. The coarse threads cut deeper into the bolt. I reamed the bolt hole in the arm so the bolt is a snug slip fit. It won't fall in, you have to push it into the hole.