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Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:08 pm

What year is this split window in looking at buying it I was told it was a 67

Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:23 pm

All will be revealed here.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/

I didn't answer your question because the whole give a man a fish versus teaching him how to fish thing. Plus if you're like the rest of us weirdos on here you can't get enough VW things to read about.

Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:27 pm

That's y I'm asking for help I don't see that sequence

Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:34 pm

This is more constructive/helpful

http://www.busdepot.com/deciphering-chassis-vin-numbers/

Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:14 pm

237... would indicate a 67 kombi

Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:43 am

When reading the VIN chart at http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/chassisdating.php

for a nine digit VIN, ignore the 2nd digit.
217 001 123 is after 247 001 122

Look for 237045719 in the part of the chart with 217 xxx xxx
The second digit of the 9- digit VIN is the model number.
All buses in the same model year were numbered sequentially as they came off the line, not separate sequences for the different models.

more info on VINs:
Clara wrote: Quote: Can somebody help me with decode vin # 256141273 , what year it is , I'm thinking it is 1966.
EverettB wrote: Yes, the 3rd digit is a 6 so it's a 1966.

FWIW, this is correct when the VIN is a 9- digit number.

If it was a seven digit VIN, like 1165141, or a 6 digit VIN, like 226225, they had not yet put the type/model/ years into the VIN number.
In that case, the 3rd digit being 6 means nothing special.
It is sequential, 226225 is the 226225th VW bus made. The next bus, whatever model, is 226226.

The nine digit VIN started for the 1965 model year. Then the first three digits told you the type/model/model-year.
So you can tell that a VW with VIN 256 xxx xxx is a bus, deluxe, 1966 model year. 256141273 is the 141273rd bus made in the 1966 model year.
when they started the 1967 model year, it would be VIN 2X7 000 001. I put x as the second digit because I don't know the model. The second 67 bus would have the last 6 digits of the VIN 000 002, regardless of model.

In the production tables, all 1965 and later 9 digit VINs are listed as starting with 21, which can be confusing for people who are looking up a VIN for a non panel van.

If a VW bus has an eight digit VIN, it will be like 20-115123, the 20- is a prefix that means it is a type 2 - a bus. The 20- prefix was dropped at the beginning of the 1956 calendar year.
Evidently bugs had a 1- prefix on the VIN through the end of 1955 calendar year.

Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:47 am

Malokin Martin wrote: This is more constructive/helpful

http://www.busdepot.com/deciphering-chassis-vin-numbers/

It is incorrect for buses before the 65 model year/ before the nine digit VIN.

Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:56 am

Clara wrote: Malokin Martin wrote: This is more constructive/helpful

http://www.busdepot.com/deciphering-chassis-vin-numbers/

It is incorrect for buses before the 65 model year/ before the nine digit VIN.

He has a 1967... so this is correct information for him.

Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:03 am

Oh ya I get it. Now thanks for setting me straight on HOW to read a vin correctly. pick one up for 3700 yesterday from El Paso. I have a 70 bay I'm fire selling if you know any one. Has new motor and trans. 100% rust free 5500 firm it's a 8 seater. It has to go. I been wanting a split for a while now all resources will go to it.

Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:19 am

VINs are pretty complex...I still have to settle in and say 'ok, lets read a VIN' before I do it.

Let's see pics of the kombi...don't see many of those in later year splits.

Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:41 am

First 2 digits - version of vehicle, panel van, microbus, deluxe microbus, pickup, etc
Third digit - Model year
Forth to end - serialised running number denoting production sequence

Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:46 am

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_author=R.C.N.+Bugs&show_results=summary

Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:33 am

Just to confirm things - I see a '67 in your photos.

Critical things that identify it as a '67:
67 gas door
67 radio opening

And of course a VIN # prefix of 237 is
23 - Kombi
7 - 1967

Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:49 am

Sweet huh
Y no back up lights Everett. I thought all 67s had them. Hopefully it's not rusted bad. Main thing is it has all the windows. I already got the new trans for it and 944 brakes all around. I got a motor also. I think ill do ok pn this one

Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:52 am

Backup lights were a mid-'67 addition so "early" 67s don't have them.

Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:43 pm

EverettB wrote: Backup lights were a mid-'67 addition so "early" 67s don't have them.

You may not have a dual master cylinder either. Might want to check before setting up to do your brake upgrade.

Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:15 pm

Good thanks for looking out for me I'll check the master cyl as soon as it arrives. I'm so excited. Finally I got one

Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:17 pm

What exactly does Kombi mean

Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:46 pm

KOMBINATION bus

Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:11 pm

R.C.N. Bugs wrote: What exactly does Kombi mean

It was the 'base' model of the passenger bus. Seats in the back, but either no interior panels or plain gray panels, rather than the two-tone. Also were single color exteriors (may have been a discussion recently about rare two-tone kombis?).

Passenger bus models went, in ascending order: Kombi, Standard, Deluxe.

Other parts of the world also use 'Kombi' as a generic term for all busses