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Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:49 am

I just lowered my 60 and noticed that my tire tires are rubbing the rear body mount. I have lowered my other bugs two clicks and never had this trouble before. ADVICE?

Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:57 am

Raise it back up a "click" :lol:

2 inner? 2 outer? combo of inner and outer?
Lots of "clicks" round here..

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Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:15 pm

Two outer clicks

Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:24 pm

HIROLER wrote: Two outer clicks
Well there ya go..

Each outside splines give approx 8 degrees of change.. you went 2 so thats approx 16 degrees.. equates to little over 2 inches.
Its going slam the ass end
Depending on tire and wheel configurations it very well could rub..
PLUS... if the torsion bars are a little fatigued.. 2 clicks can actually drop it more than expected..

What wheels?.. what size tires?.. Both sides?

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Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:26 pm

Stock 15"wheels with 165 tires. Yes it's rubbing on both sides. I just narrowed the beam with adjusters and 2 1/2 drop spindles. So the back needs to be low, but two clicks just rubs.

Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:38 pm

Hmmmm sounds like weak torsions.. You may have to make adjustments with inner and outer splines to get it where ya want it.
Search torsion spline chart.

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Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:04 am

Thanks

Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:47 pm

narrowed the beam with adjusters and 2 1/2 drop spindles. So the back needs to be low, but two clicks just rubs.

Tires rubbing may end up being the least of your troubles.

But have you considered wheel spacers to get the tires off the body mounts?

Or maybe just grind the body mounts away. There are plenty of other bolts holding the body on.

Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:35 pm

My '66 is lowered two clicks. stock spring plates ride on the metal stop and my tires don't rub. cant remember what size they are. I need to get drop plates though.

Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:36 am

R33ce97 wrote: My '66 is lowered two clicks. stock spring plates ride on the metal stop and my tires don't rub. cant remember what size they are. I need to get drop plates though.

That must be a really nice ride if the spring plates are sitting on the stops.

Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:00 am

What do drop plates do? Do they lower the back if you do not change the "clicks". I do not like the "Broke" look (Rear Tires canted in) but do like lower. Would drop plates help?

Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:07 am

tb03830 wrote: What do drop plates do? Do they lower the back if you do not change the "clicks". I do not like the "Broke" look (Rear Tires canted in) but do like lower. Would drop plates help?

There are fixed drop and adjustable drop spring plates.
Both are usually installed at stock spring plate angles.

Fixed result in a given amount of drop built into the plate, while adjustable allow adjustment.

Either will drop the rear, obviously adjustable allows fine tuning.

Both yeild a saggy bottom look on a swing axle.... :?

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Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:10 am

VOLKSWAGNUT wrote:

Both yeild a saggy bottom look on a swing axle.... :?

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Saggy bottom? Don't know that term.

Thank for the info on the types that helps.

Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:11 am

tb03830 wrote: What do drop plates do? Do they lower the back if you do not change the "clicks". I do not like the "Broke" look (Rear Tires canted in) but do like lower. Would drop plates help?

You still get the same change in camber (broke look) with drop plates. Drop plates have elongated toe adjustment slots so that you can run proper toe while lowered. They are also designed so that they don't interfere with the travel limits at the torsion bar housing ends.

Also, if you do to the work of installing a drop plate, you have removed the old torsion plates and therefor still have to set them up for the desired amount of drop.

The big advantage I can see would be to be able to run the correct amount of toe, as you quickly run out of adjustment with the stock torsion plates and end up running excessive toe in.

Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:28 am

tb03830 wrote: VOLKSWAGNUT wrote:

Both yeild a saggy bottom look on a swing axle.... :?

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Saggy bottom? Don't know that term.

Merely a saggy bottom reference.. not hating on anyone..Its just not my thing..
Once you lower the rear swing axle past level axle... its sags towards severly negative camber... (and positive damage)

If you want to lower the rear slightly... the torsions can be adjusted with a series of inner and outer splines to just about any height.
Its cheaper that way..
Adjustable plates are for those who really like to fine tune the height and have money to waist (over time)..

This is the style I refer to as.... the saggy bottom bugs... :?

Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:30 am

Ok, Thanks, That is what I was calling the "Broke Look". Not my thing either.

Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:38 am

tb03830 wrote: Ok, Thanks, That is what I was calling the "Broke Look". Not my thing either.

Broke look or saggy bottom.. both look real cool when its on the side of the road with burnt out fulcrum plates or drum splines..
Goes from your "Broke Look" .. to broken

Fine for show :roll: ...I guess.... but sucks for go..

This style didnt really start showing up until all the ricer boys and girls started dumping theirs way down in the dirt... so some followed suit...
Same can be noted with the tricycle look front beam...
Narrow a beam to fit wheels under a fender..... .but so far under to loose sight of them... I dont get..

To each their own.. not my circus..not my monkeys..

I lower all my vehicles.. Just know when to say when..

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Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:29 pm

The main two things that drop plates do for you is to give you the toe adjustment already mentioned. But they also allow you to get your spring plates off the stop and have a little suspension travel.

The only way to get rid of the broke look on a low swing axle car is to do a transmission raise and get the axles back to being level. Thats big modifications.

Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:40 pm

drscope wrote:
The only way to get rid of the broke look on a low swing axle car is to do a transmission raise and get the axles back to being level. Thats big modifications.

Or a CV joint (IRS) swap...
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:33 pm

How do the axle bearings survive with that much negative camber?