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Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:28 pm

monkeybot wrote: What years 924 should I look for?

Allthough I am still not lock down positive, alot of people seem to think (they always throw the "think" in there) up to 85 1/2' non turbo models. I've never had the opportuninty to challenge, or compare though. Its been easy enough to find stuff off the early 80's 924-944's for me.

Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:15 pm

Hmmm... I dunno what year the 924 was that I got the parts off of. Never thought to look. When I go back or the arms and such I'll check and post it. Which brings me to my next question.

What would be better. 924 arms or bug arms with the weld on reinforcement kit? For a baja.

Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:21 am

Blindchicken. He took the time to show 411 CV's are Better than Type 2. I've been using the 411 CV's for years now. You can get a few extra dagres of travel with them over the Type 2 CV's and you do not get the CV Click. So when you do get CV's make sure you get the 411's.

411 and typ 2 CV's use the same size flange and axles.

Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:04 am

ok help me..

I used 411 cvs years ago have smaller balls than type 2, and after they broke the cages went with type 2.

now you have me thinking.. does anyone: have good experiance with 411 cvs, mine were older maybe i just assumed they broke as they were weaker

71 westy lifted, 002 trany and 31x13.5x15 TSL

Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:07 pm

The smaller Balls and wider body let you get mor trvle out of the 411 CV's over the type 2 CV's. I have been useing the same set 411 CV's for well over 7 years now on my baja.

The odds real good you over extended them. and that is why the CV's broke. Your axles could also be too short and at fell extension, the C clip pulls on the CV.

Tue May 17, 2005 5:25 pm

I just bought a set of 944 stub axles with 4 CVs with axles and boots. My car has a type 2 trans and stock trailing arms. Does anyone know how much I will be able to notch the spring plates to take advantage of the increased travel?
What shocks should I run (that fit the stock location) to allow for the increased travel?

Thu May 19, 2005 3:14 pm

Big Dave wrote: I just bought a set of 944 stub axles with 4 CVs with axles and boots. My car has a type 2 trans and stock trailing arms. Does anyone know how much I will be able to notch the spring plates to take advantage of the increased travel?
What shocks should I run (that fit the stock location) to allow for the increased travel?

Well you should be able to notch it up to the pic thats posted just about every othr day (why just today a couple of threads down again :D ) of class 11's plates. Heres the problem though, your not gonna find a shock thats gonna give you enough movement in the stock location though, you'll probably end up with a shock thats gonna be fully compressed too soon in order to give you the length that it needs to meet up with the arm, so you will be decreasing what little travel you have now.
Years ago I emailed KYB and asked about an alternative shock if I was slightly increasing the travel of a stock setup and they were able to give me a part number and specs I have since lost it though :( The increase was pretty minamal. I know that poeple have suggested a shock to fit an early dodge caravan will also give you a little more movement with notched plates, withought really losing at full compression. They are avail bolt-on through Rancho, if you happen to be a fan of them.
On the arms I modified, I simply took the shock mount bucket loose from its mount and raised it up. No I won't increase travel but I can still use a shock thats gonna fit within the limited space and work properly! so the car can now sit higher and still have some downward movement and I also gain a touch more overall clearence at the rear with raised mounts.

Thu May 19, 2005 3:42 pm

mdetro4660@aol.com wrote: Well you should be able to notch it up to the pic thats posted just about every othr day (why just today a couple of threads down again :D ) of class 11's plates. Heres the problem though, your not gonna find a shock thats gonna give you enough movement in the stock location though, you'll probably end up with a shock thats gonna be fully compressed too soon in order to give you the length that it needs to meet up with the arm, so you will be decreasing what little travel you have now.
Years ago I emailed KYB and asked about an alternative shock if I was slightly increasing the travel of a stock setup and they were able to give me a part number and specs I have since lost it though :( The increase was pretty minamal. I know that poeple have suggested a shock to fit an early dodge caravan will also give you a little more movement with notched plates, withought really losing at full compression. They are avail bolt-on through Rancho, if you happen to be a fan of them.
On the arms I modified, I simply took the shock mount bucket loose from its mount and raised it up. No I won't increase travel but I can still use a shock thats gonna fit within the limited space and work properly! so the car can now sit higher and still have some downward movement and I also gain a touch more overall clearence at the rear with raised mounts.

Thanks, I think I'll cut the bottom mounts off and move them. I emailed VWclass11, and he said he uses a bus shock to get a little more travel. But I guess cutting and rewelding the mounts while the arms are out to replace the bushings, would be fairly easy.

Fri May 20, 2005 8:23 am

Big Dave wrote: Thanks, I think I'll cut the bottom mounts off and move them. I emailed VWclass11, and he said he uses a bus shock to get a little more travel. But I guess cutting and rewelding the mounts while the arms are out to replace the bushings, would be fairly easy.

Just remeber that the bus shock is 3" longer. Yea that gives you more downward travel, but it's also 3" longer than a stock shock at full compression!

Fri May 20, 2005 8:44 am

mdetro4660@aol.com wrote: Just remeber that the bus shock is 3" longer. Yea that gives you more downward travel, but it's also 3" longer than a stock shock at full compression!

Doh! Well I guess it's a case of 6 of one half dozen of the other. Moving the lower mounts up on the arms accomplishes the same thing. I guess I'll use the stock bug shocks and just move the lower mount to give me the most travel without letting the shock over extend itself. I think I will first see what I can dig up at the local parts store to see if I can find a shock that has more travel, but has close to the same overall length.

Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:03 pm

Does anyone know what the axle length difference is between using standard IRS stub axles and microstubs?

Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:09 pm

You can run about a 2" longer axle

Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:30 am

How big can you go with control arms while using torsion bars. Could I get away with 4x5s or are 3x3s pretty much max?

Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:39 am

i wouldnt go any bigger than 3" longer with torsion. you can, but the spring rates get too soft, even with the big 30mm bars (often run with 3x3s)

Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:02 pm

Im running 3x3 on my bug with 28mm springs on the back it rides like a dream but im am also running 14 inch strock bilstien shocks that came off a ford f-250. i have about 12 to 13inches of travel in the back.

i drive it hard my only problem is my cv's i have type 4's on my trans and type 2 on the wheel side . the cages blow up on me. and i have limit straps to control my drop down.
where can i find cromoly cages ?

On rorty-design.com they give a list of bmw cvs that are the same size as type 2 and 4 and are stronger any ideas

Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:27 pm

Wow, this thread came back from the dead.Try Kartek.

Sun May 07, 2006 4:39 pm

ok, im now considering 2x3 arms. the question is, will torsions take it? i have 30mm swayaways. but my engine weighs just under 400 pounds. i dont have the coin for coilovers. or would i be better off keeping my stock arms and putting some type 4 cvs on it?

Sun May 07, 2006 5:14 pm

I am planning on switching from the 27's that came with my car to 30mm, but your engine weighs in more than mine. I plan on putting my radiator over my motor, yours is in front. Put in the 30's and let me know how it does! That may be the ticket for both of us.

Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:03 am

how can i raise from stock height? it's a 1969 beetle from aus.
i'm a bit confused...

Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:51 pm

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