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Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:04 am

Can anyone with a Kommercial tell me what the size/thread pitch is of the rubber bumpers that fit into the cargo doors is?
I mic'd the hole and it looked like ~5 or 6mm but I'm not sure.
Can anyone tell me the size?

Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:26 am

http://oacdp.org/5867part.html

According to the part manual thru the above link.

Part 122 in diagram below.

Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:11 am

Here's clearer diagram:

Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:44 pm

Looks like 5mm x 12.
Thanks guys!
Do these stoppers go just on the cargo doors, or is there one on the front door (and bus body) too?

Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:49 pm

Over to the right of the part number, item 122... it lists quantity of 4.
One on each of the doors & one about a foot behind the C pillar

Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:53 pm

Front door take the rubber snubbers as well.

Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:05 pm

From the "Brochures" section on this very website in the 1962 section:

Deluxe bus from 1961 brochure:

As always a picture is worth a thousand words.....

If images are too small, left click once on each and will magnify the image.

Much much more can be accessed thru the "Archives" button at upper right of this webpage.

Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:25 pm

Wolfsburg buses have taller door snubbers.

Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:29 pm

As far as the bumpers... I gleaned a little from a barndoor thread (link below)
In the spare parts catalogs there are 3 different spare numbers.
1: the 50-52 barndoor type: 211841535 4mm thread
2: the next one 21mm: 211841691A 5mm thread
3: the one used from chassis 215031090 (~Sept. '64), 26mm: 211841691B 5mm thread

Can read more about dimensions here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=270202

The later ones are still reproduced, from what I recall... WW has the taller & West Coast Metric has the mid-size. Both manufacturers have different threads... and one (don't recall which) has threads that don't match the welded nut in the cargo doors.

I don't have pics of the latter styles... but here's the early BD style:

Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:23 am

You mention the welded nut in the cargo doors but what about the front door and bus body?
Are those just sheet metal screws, or do they have welded in nuts also?

(My bus is a deluxe with Kombi cargo doors). :wink:

Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:24 am

I'm trying to get the bolt size and snubber length so I can rig up a rare earth magnet and rubber snubber to hold the cargo doors open when camping.

Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:36 am

Those sucks' are strong!

Three doores are threaded... Furthest back takes a regular nut.

Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:34 am

If I remember correctly, Double and Single cabs used the tall snubbers on their gates. On my 63 panel just the cargo doors have the blind nuts welded in, both the passenger and driver doors dont. I even took the door cards off to check, and it doesnt look like there were ever any welded to them. :? *EDIT*

I used the WW snubbers, they do thread into the cargo door nuts. They are a little taller but I like that as they offer just a bit more space when the doors are opened up against the snubbers.

Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:00 am

Big Bill wrote: If I remember correctly, Double and Single cabs used the tall snubbers on their gates.

Those use a completely different snubber that fastens with a separate machine screw and nut.
Early snubbers of the truck kind are much shorter than later ones.

Would be easier to use truck gate stops on a bus to mount magnets, but will be tricky to not have the magnets hit each other and possibly damage the magnets. We bought some nifty high strength magnets that are shaped like a washer, but are brittle....

http://www.bustoration.com/Rubber-Stop-For-Pick-Up-Large-SCDC-25MM-6-14_p_1318.html

http://dropgates.com/resto/rubberstop.html

Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:23 am

Can't understand why a major supplier like WW or WCM would produce these bumpers with an incorrect bolt thread, sheesh.

Does anyone have either the WCM or the WW bumpers and care to take a pic and post here?

Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:43 am

StockNazi wrote: Can't understand why a major supplier like WW or WCM would produce these bumpers with an incorrect bolt thread, sheesh.

Does anyone have either the WCM or the WW bumpers and care to take a pic and post here?

If the threads are wrong then it's junk rt?

Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:49 am

CaLiBus wrote: Wolfsburg buses have taller door snubbers.

I think you are incorrect.

Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:55 am

A friends Nov 55 has these tall ones and my Oct 55 is the same

Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:14 am

CaLiBus wrote: A friends Nov 55 has these tall ones and my Oct 55 is the same

Maybe your picture makes it look weird.

Wolfsburg busses have the same cargo door bumpers as '56-'60 busses.

There isn't a Wolfsburg specific cargo door bumper.

Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:14 pm

The smaller bumpers are original to my 56, the monster was purchased from WW last week. The threads are the same, but holy cow the thing is huge.

Anyone have any advise on what I can do? I do not want to put the WW bumper on.