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Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:07 pm

just bought a complete set up has anyone has and bad things happen because of this set up ? :D

Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:34 am

Since you "just bought" it, I suggest you install it, run it and give US a full report! :shock: :lol:

It's the cart before the horse. As in maybe you should have asked about it before laying the $$ for it.

But seriously, do give a report on how it works for you! 8)

Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:50 am

I am running it and have not had an issue, cranks right up and runs like a top. I have a buddy here in vegas that also runs it, he has been running it for about two years with out issue.

Randy

Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:36 pm

But now the ever impending question...how much extra horsepower do you get!? :D . But seriously folks...other than not having to worry about a distributor what are the other benefits? Would that work well with a MSD setup?

Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:41 pm

I would say little to none, but that is not why I did it.

I did it for the maint issue, if I want HP there are better ways to get it that are cheaper then the DIX

Randy

Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:56 pm

Ok, I was just checking because I thought about doing this a while back and was wondering if there were any other benefits besides not running a dist. (which is great in my mind!) :D

Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:58 pm

I've been thinking about this product. So it really is that good? Don't have to deal with the distributor, either? No 009 flat spot?

I looked at their website but couldn't see how much it cost. How much did you guys pay and where did you buy it?

Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:10 pm

I picked up a compufire unit from http://dansperformanceparts.com/buggy/buggystore.htm for $83.95. This unit is supposed to be near identical to the Pertronix II unit that and it seems to be in the same price and functionality range. I used it to replace my dual vacuum distributor on my 71 that had "almost" no flat spot with a new bosch 009 and ign. system. I still don't have a flat spot and it seems to fire right on the money better than before. I would have to say that if it lasts for even a couple of years without having to pop the cap off my dist. than it was worth the money. No real worries about it crapping out either, I just keep the points and condenser in a plastic baggy in my parts box in the bus. If we ever have a nuclear explosion and all electronics die Ill just do the 5 minute swap and be on the road again!

As for the benefits, I see two things: No maintanence and near ideal operation. First you don't need to fiddle with adjusting the points which can be a pain if your on the road and something goes wrong with it. I once overheated my engine and pretty much melted mine down, and that was a pain to jimmy rig without another on me at the time. Another thing to consider is that its ideal to have your points always adjusted perfectly for plain wear and tear, but is hard to do and maintain. If you have an electronic one it will just play nicer with everything making your whole engine run better longer. As for horsepower, technically I don't think you should actually get any more. I believe any power gained would essentially be from running a distributor that is atually tuned correctly over the varying rpm's.

Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:26 pm

The Mallory is a MUCH better buy. There are many more benefits of the Mallory as it replaces the dizzy- thats the key.

The compufire is only as good as what triggers it and advances it- if thats a 009 you're still pissin in the wind.

Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:05 pm

I am very happy with it, but Jake is correct the Mallory is a better choice, but it is much more $$$

Randy

Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:17 pm

So both Compufire and Mallory sell products to replace the distributor, but the Mallory is better but more expensive?

What is the model number for the Mallory? Do you know why the Mallory is the better product?

Thanks.

Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:35 pm

The mallory will set you back around $280, in my case the other problem was that I was upgrading to dual carbs and didn't have anywhere I could attach the vacuum advance that came with the mallory, easily that is. It sounds like a nice option, but didn't fit my wallet or the ablility to just switch out with parts I already have available to me.

I am sure Jake knows what he is talking about and that it is a great unit, but if your not driving around a fancy bus and just want a nice upgrade then I still think the pertronix or compufire is the way to go. There is always something better, fancier, and more expensive out there, you just need to decide what your happy with and what suits your needs.

Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:25 pm

Really, the only thing I like is the idea of getting rid of my distributor. Any other benefits (better mileage, more power, etc...) are just a bonus. So, all things being equal, I only care about which unit is going to be the most trouble-free. I just want one less thing to have to mess with.

Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:00 pm

The Mallory is not fancy.. I don't like things because they look cool. I Like the mallory because I can easily persuade it into a 25% power gain below 3,000 RPM, and in a bus thats worth its weight in Titanium..

The Compufire is like 179, for 100 bucks more you can get a dizzy that can be set and not looked at for nearly 50 K and has timing so accurate that you can use an ancient timing light and its steady as a clock...

There is no substitute.

Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:06 pm

Jake- Your talking about the Unilite or the Dual Points Mallory with Vaccum Advance correct?
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=IGD0003

Now would that 25% increase below 3000rpm also be obtainable for a type I stock bug?

Thanks
-Kevin

Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:20 am

Since ten years, and that's no joke I run a Pertronix Ignitor on a 009 distributor in my bug. Since then I have not touched that thing. Now a lot of people told me that the quality of the newer ignitors are not so good anymore (I don't know). For my thing I went the same route, but this time I bought an accufire (copy of compufire) ignition module. This is realy cheap and according to people which sell both, the better quality, (less returns!) than the compufire module. I dont have more hp but a reliable trouble free spark for little money. How long it will last remains to be seen. But the one in my bug runs and runs and runs. I yet have to find that flat spot, I think this can be minimized with some proper adjustments.
Well these are only my five cents to this problem. Now if you are looking for performance, go with Mallory or MSD. You want power, you need money, as simple as that. The Dis X is not distributor less, it still uses the 009 and its advance mechanism to generate a spark.

Greetings Dominique

Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:58 am

The Unilite...

See when you buy anything else the problem is that you still need pertronix, or other gadgets to make it pointless.. You still have the same 009 issues and the crappy quality and basically non existant setting with the initial advance and curve..

The Mallory gets rid of all that and sets a new standard. Till you have installed one, driven the car and installed one, then adjusted it and driven the car you just don't understand! My dyno can show me in 2 minutes what the changes can make...

Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:45 pm

I'm actually happy with a stock late van dizzy with petronics.... The vaccum advance gets it going fine at the low revs and it roars up quick and settles down to a low growl, all smoth and silky..... I've barely looked at the thing in the last 6 months.