TheSamba.com :: View topic - Check this out 1949 beetle restored and for Sale for 47,950

Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:46 pm

I was suffering around just because i was bored and i found this

http://www.oldbug.com/1949.htm

It is full restored 1949 Beetle to orginial specs 8) . I think it is awesome

Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:10 pm

that thing is a bucket!

Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:23 pm

Thank's

Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:29 pm

thats on the samba to for 48 grand, then that other one thats just the body.

Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:29 pm

that is amazing :shock: if only i had the money & a good place to store it

Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:28 pm

I saw that car here in Vegas last October and at the Wolfsburg West Fest last year. Very nice car.

Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:34 am

That isn't a VW Bug... it's a fine work of art. :D Awesome restoration. Awesome car.

Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:22 am

I wish the Super Beetle I am getting could be hand cranked started 8) . Then I could never worry about having to buy another starter, or killing the battery trying to start the car. :lol:

Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:42 pm

I'll probably piss alot of people off, especially being new around here, but wouldn't that car make an awesome little cal-looker? I know how much it's worth and all, but I don't think I could keep my hands off of it if I had it. I'm thinking some centerlines and t-bars. Narrowed beam, sittin on the ground, strip the interior and save it for later (when you want to restore it again), update the brakes, new motor and tranny, then drive the shit out of it. :twisted: That's what it's for, right?

Maybe I can get a loan.HMMMMM.......

Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:56 pm

not to be rude RATRODVW, but i am kind of new, i have been reading a lot of forms, but you do not seem to know the history of the 1949 Beetle :? . The 1949 Beetle was the year that they brought the Beetle to the United States. Furthermore, only 2 were sold in 1949 :!: :!: . So that car is HALF of VW Beetle sale's in 1949. Now I doubt strongly that anyone would modify this car because only two were sold in the US that year :roll: . So to answer your question, it might look good, but you would not be wise to change that car in anyway shape or form. :wink:

Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:58 pm

RATRODVW wrote: I'll probably piss alot of people off, especially being new around here, but wouldn't that car make an awesome little cal-looker? I know how much it's worth and all, but I don't think I could keep my hands off of it if I had it. I'm thinking some centerlines and t-bars. Narrowed beam, sittin on the ground, strip the interior and save it for later (when you want to restore it again), update the brakes, new motor and tranny, then drive the shit out of it. :twisted: That's what it's for, right?

Maybe I can get a loan.HMMMMM.......
thats why you are you Rat.
and why people end up beating people like you with a hammer.
that car and it's owner are a class act.
somethings you just don't trash, not just because it's the right thing,
but for the simple respect of it being so rare you don't even think of harming a ride that fine.
thats what late models are for.

Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:24 pm

I know the history of the beetle, and I know the worth of the car. I know it's an important piece of Volkswagen history. I was just saying you could keep the car stock and restorable, but have some real fun with it. There was nothing that I said that couldn't be undone in a weekend worth of work. And I've always said I don't care if a car is worth $1 or $1,000,000, whats the point of owning a car if you're not gonna drive it? If I owned that car and, left it the way it was, it would still be exposed to the same dangers (rock chips, careless drivers, pot holes, etc.) because I would DRIVE IT. Anyway, it's not even painted the original color, so as far as value goes based on originality, that takes a lot away from the car. I didn't say that the car wasn't beautiful, and I didn't say I wanted to "trash" it, all I said was-wouldn't it be cool...

and I'm called rat because form should always follow function-my car may not be pretty, but it flat out hauls, just the way I intended it.

Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:44 pm

RATRODVW wrote: because I would DRIVE IT. Anyway, it's not even painted the original color, .
it might not be the Og color, but it's a correct OG color for the year.
paint might not be OG,but where do you draw the line?
first a motor,then rims,etc. just what is your stopping point?
if it was beyond that what would you feel?
maybe a neet set of seats,i meen you could allways "restore"it back,...
oh wait, you need tunes, so cut the dash for a radio,.you can allways restore it, what the hell,.i meen you DO want to drive it,right?
where does it stop then?
when will a cherry ride become a POS just because you couldn't control yourself and butcher something a bit less vintage?
thats my point rat, where is the stopping point and why..
ps,.. i called you rat beacuse that was part of your screenname, not because i think you are a rat.

Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:39 pm

RatRod I am on your side, when i was looking at the bug, i was like damn wouldnt that look nice slammed with some t-bars and some randars or some BRM's. I see where your coming from. Who gives a care that only two were sold, just because ur lowering it, doesnt change the fact that it was 1 of 2 that were sold in the united states.

Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:51 pm

there is a big difference between taking a beat car and resto/customizing it to where you would like it to be and taking a perfectly restored car and customizing it. in the first case, you are not only improving its value, but you are saving an old car from the crusher. in the second case, you are devaluing the car. you can still DRIVE a stock vw, even one that old.
that aside, despite the fact that it looks like any other split window beetle, any beetle made before 1950, whether it was imported to the US or not, is in a league of its own. the older they get, the more rare they get. take hebmullers for instance. i think i would puke if i saw a hebmuller with candy yellow paint, slammed, and on repro rims with a 1776. sure it may be fast, and it may be a nice custom job, but it is a heb, for christ's sake. there are only a handful left in the world, much less the U.S.
besides, from a practical standpoint, anyone who is willing to drop fifty large on a restored 49 type 1 is most likely not going to slam it. at that point the car is just as much of an investment as it is a form of transportation, if not more. in addition to being a monetary investment, it is a historical investment.

assuming a slippery slope here, where does your logic lead? would you be willing to see someone chop that 49 into a baja? maybe a baja would be more functional for them. maybe it would be the ONLY 49 baja in the world. maybe it would be one of the nicest bajas period, regardless of year. it still wouldnt make it right to do so. a car that is restored that well to OG specs should stay that way. to do otherwise would be like painting the white house orange.

Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:27 am

I think if you are gonna do up a standard, go for a later standard like this.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=68468

Its already upgraded on a later pan etc. Those early pre 50 splits like Carlos' 49 are so prehistoric, you would have to do so much modification, cable brakes, trans mount, wing nut seats etc, etc,... you'd be better off with a later split.

Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:34 am

wide five repro fuchs. "the holy g a yl"

cool looking split tho. good points skim.

Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:05 am

True, only 2 were sold in the USA in 1949 but how many have 49's have come into this country in the past 55 years? Even though...any 49 is ultra-rare and shouldnt be modified, slammed, hacked up or whatever would take it away from the way it was originally put together. If you want the split look with modern handling, brakes and power then built it yourself! I have seen many split roof sections on the Samba and Ebay, put it on a 57 and earlier body and it would be hard to tell it from the real thing and you wouldnt have to be afraid to drive it!

Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:27 am

Ya know, I kinda posted those just because I thought it would get at least somebody going. I think we all know I'm never going to own that car (I can't even paint the ones I own) and if I did, you know goddamn well that after buying the car, I would have NO money to do anything with it. I was just trying to get some blood pumping. :twisted: I really don't think I could bring myself to even sit in that car, let alone screw it all up! If I really wanted a standard, I wouldn't even screw up a less rare one, I would build a clone out of a late fifties or early sixties bug. Don't hold it against me, just trying to stir up some shit.

Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:06 am

SuperSkim wrote: I think if you are gonna do up a standard, go for a later standard like this.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=68468

Its already upgraded on a later pan etc. Those early pre 50 splits like Carlos' 49 are so prehistoric, you would have to do so much modification, cable brakes, trans mount, wing nut seats etc, etc,... you'd be better off with a later split.

I know this car well. It would make an excellent ratrod split.