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Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:25 pm

I start it up and have to hold the gas to the floor to bring the rpm's up.
Idles very low,then stalls. As I hold the pedal to the floor the motor idles very rough,then smoothes out around 3 1/2 grand. The timming is ok,I have a feeling it's in the carb. When I pull the throtle back I should see a streem of gas shot in-but it does not.
The fuel filter is fine,I'm really baffled here....
This is on a h30/31 pct carb if it's even that...Vac leaks?from where?dunno?
HELP-Thanks!
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:58 pm

1964VW wrote: I start it up and have to hold the gas to the floor to bring the rpm's up.
Idles very low,then stalls. As I hold the pedal to the floor the motor idles very rough,then smoothes out around 3 1/2 grand. The timming is ok,I have a feeling it's in the carb. When I pull the throtle back I should see a streem of gas shot in-but it does not.The fuel filter is fine,I'm really baffled here....
This is on a 30pct carb if it's even that...Vac leaks?from where?dunno?
HELP-Thanks!
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

the accelerator pump is not working and it will cause the problem your having.

but you still could have other issues too.

Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:36 pm

Hey thanks for the tip,I'm also gonna do a compression test 2marrow.
It's a weird/rough idle when bringin up the rpm's,almost like the timming is wacked,but I just did it before this happend+I don't think the car would start if the timming was that wacked. I did just put new spark plugs in like 5 days ago,when I pulled them to check-they were a little black chared.
So I cleaned them and threw them back in. Still the problem was there...

Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:53 am

When you said Accelerator pump,did you mean the Accelerator pump injector/discharge tube? It's hard to see in the exploded view-looks like a tube coming out. Or is it what that tube is connected to? Looks like it runs to nowhere...ahhhh?

Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:01 am

Yes, first make sure the brass discharge tube is in place... look down the carb ( holding the choke open, engine not running) and pull the throttle... you should see a stream of fuel shoot out of the tube.

If not the tube could be clogged, the passages in the carb clogged, or if it is a weak stream or just squirts near half or full throttle, then the linkage could be sloppy and or the rubber accelerator diagphram itself is old and dryed out/ cracked ( carb rebuild time!)

otherwise if it checks out ok and is squirting... bad plug wires or insulators that hook to the plugs, bad condenser, weak coil, ( basically check your whole iginition system) etc. could cause a similar symptom.

as can a partially blocked main jet.

What kind of plugs did you buy?

Time to do some diagnostics... remember, make notes and change/ check/ adjust only one thing at a time, not several. This way you know for sure what fixed it... and eliminate the rest.

Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:31 am

The worst has happend,NO compression in the #4 cylinder-0!!!!
I guess it's time to order that new engine now...I don't feel an "H"block motor is worth rebuilding. Yeah ok,the guy I bought the car from rebuilt the motor...F-ing bullshiter! Don't buy anything from BRIAN CADIZ on the Samba!!!

I gonna go with BAP for my new engine-I will make reports on how the BAP 1776 is doing over the next year from when I get it.

Thanks for all your help guys!

Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:51 am

Cool,

Order it soon. Right now there are about 5 ahead of you. Need about 2 weeks plus to ship.

Steve BAP

Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:07 am

1964vw, if you don't mind me saying, it seems you are not very skilled or familiar with aircooled. Maybe you should hold back on the remarks about people that may know something you missed. He could have rebuilt it and you blew it again. I don't know the guy but you should still hold off on the "don't buy from......" I know if you have been in this for any amount of time someone will call you names over something the were wrng about.

Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:37 pm

slownlow wrote: 1964vw, if you don't mind me saying, it seems you are not very skilled or familiar with aircooled. Maybe you should hold back on the remarks about people that may know something you missed. He could have rebuilt it and you blew it again. I don't know the guy but you should still hold off on the "don't buy from......" I know if you have been in this for any amount of time someone will call you names over something the were wrng about.

Thanks for the info Steve-I'll be calling in a few days.

SlowNlow-The guy lied about many things with the car. I didnt find half of it till I started sanding things down-major rust. He said there was very little. He covered alot of things up well.
You can't go around the car sanding things down when it's not even yours yet. I told him the only reason I decided to buy the car was because he swore he was an ASE mechanic and rebuilt it himself. He claimed to own other VW's and work with his uncle on them. After speaking with his brother,he said thats this is what they do-I guess slap cars together and sell them. And SlowNlow,the car was just put on the road 4 days ago. I ran it every other day in the yard to keep things moving till I put it on the road.
And to say I don't know shit about motors is BS-your right I'm not ASE cert.,but I've done my fair share of work to VW's thru the years. Maybe you should have put your expert opion in to help out insted of trying to put me down and say I don't know shit-Thanks bud!

PS-he had his chance when I posted under the vendor section. He still to this day won't call me back after 10 calls to him!