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Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:37 pm

Does anyone out there have pictures of the 'Germany only' white horn button (wolfsburg crest) produced for Zwitters and early ovals? I have only "heard" that these exist, but have never seen one. :? There is a picture of one on page 73 of the 1949-1950 VW Beetle Authenticity Series by Bob Wilson but that's all I have ever seen.

Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:42 pm

I've seen those buttons as being described as "home market" buttons. I've several issues of VolksWorld and remember seeing a car featured in VW Trends that featured this button. I'll look up the exact issue tonight. I know it was in a White 54 with Red interior. Issue was printed about 1993-94

Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:17 pm

Bob- Found the issue. It's in the June '93 issue of VW Trends, page 26 & 27. It's a feature on John Humpley's 54 Beetle. The button has a White background (rather than Black) with the traditional Gold castle.

Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:19 pm

Thanks Glenn. Now I have to find one of those bad boys. 8)

Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:22 pm

Hey Glenn----can you scan the picture into this thread?

Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:31 pm

That sounds very interesting. Ive never even heard of it myself but I would love to see it. Bob you will definitely have to roll with one of those.

Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:38 pm

53 0val wrote: Hey Glenn----can you scan the picture into this thread?

Sorry, don't have a scanner :(

Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:32 pm

If any of you guys find one; let me know----I'll get you a finders fee. :D

Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:38 pm

I saw a whitebacked lion one the other day on ebay...no idea how rare it is, but it looked sweet.

Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:41 pm

Not really that rare and it won't fit on a batwing.

Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:47 am

Levonbenelli wrote: I saw a whitebacked lion one the other day on ebay...no idea how rare it is, but it looked sweet.

Are you referring to the one intended for use on a DKW? Ivory background with a Lion holding an anchor? If you look real close, the Lion's tail forms a small VW logo.

Bob- Though incorrect for use on a VW, it is the exact same diameter as the Pre 55 horn center. Just a tad smaller in size compared to a 1956-59 button.

Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:03 am

Thanks Glenn. I had a friend of mine try to put the lion on his batwing and it wouldn't fit. Does it need a different ring or does it need to be filed down a little? :?

Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:19 pm

It should be a direct replacement from the original crested horn push. He should use the bezel that came with the DKW button.

Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:00 pm

Thanks again----I'll tell him tonight. I'm thinking he was trying to use the OG ring. :?

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:07 am

A friend in France tells me of a white horn button he saw on an oval in Paris. It is was on a '53 so maybe they were were only offered for a short time. :?