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Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:48 pm

alright i have been on here talking about hte 61 i have well that is not correct well sort of.

the vin is 116 25 5910
which means it is a 65, that is correct i guess since it has a center vent on the window. it has one stage wipers, two stage lights , big light lenses,
the seats a sling back well anyway
i have a link pin axels and a swing axel
now what kind of car do i have (as far as year)
where is the engine plate to check what engine i have since i plan on
doing a restore i need to know please help

Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:57 pm

where did you pull the vin # from? the center vent was first offered in '66. now if you have a '66 then you would not have a link pin beam. '66 was the first year ball joint. sounds as if your " '66 " body is on any earlier pan. you might want to talk to the owner before you, and see what he knows.

Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:59 pm

sorry your right it is a 66 not a 65 the vin came off the spare tire section in the trunk. the previos owner doesn't know crap and he doesn't remeber who he bought it from

should i assume the body is a 66 and the frame a 61 since that is what the title says

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:01 pm

A 116 vin is a 1966.

Are you sure it has a Link Pin front end?

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:02 pm

i know it is either a king pin or link pin i don't know which

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:08 pm

thats a king-link pin front end! is that what you have or do you have ball joints?
do the #'s on your pan match the body?

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:08 pm

king pin type and link pin type are the same. does it have straight shock towers, or do they curl out at top. if curled out it's a ball joint.

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:09 pm

they are straight
where is the pan vin

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:12 pm

the pan vin is under the back seat in front of the inspection plate on top of the tunnel. straight is king/link pin.

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:14 pm

Very odd... link pin with a 116 vin.

I've seen stranger. After all... in the past 40 years someone could of switched things around.

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:15 pm

i will go check the pan vin now

checked it and the shocks , the front beam curls out the catch the shock so it will have to be a ball joint i apologize

the vin on the pan is 119 710679 so a what 1969 ? i think it has irs
the wheels move independantly so i would assume so but the tires are angled out on top

and the title says it is a 61

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:41 pm

engine code is F 0539174
it is irs
it has wide 5 rims on it
and round hubcaps
drums all the way around with a dual master cylinder
the high beam swich is on the floor
the wiper switch is on the turn signal

i am starting to think it has a case of idenity crisis and has been hogpodged at one point

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:48 pm

Couldn't it be an early '66 before BJ - perhaps the phase in? I can dig into Progressive Refinements to see if it was possible. . . .

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:50 pm

bj what is that?
also is there a site to get info on the vin specifically for the car or progessive ... to see what it is

Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:01 am

papertiger_98 wrote: engine code is F 0539174
it is irs
it has wide 5 rims on it
and round hubcaps
drums all the way around with a dual master cylinder
the high beam swich is on the floor
the wiper switch is on the turn signal

i am starting to think it has a case of idenity crisis and has been hogpodged at one point

All Beetles are IRS, but most people refer to the early style (68-down) as swing-axle, and the later cars (69-up) as IRS, the later cars simply have a double "u"-joint for each axle.

It sounds like you pan must be 67.

Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:04 am

High beam indicator on floor . . Hmm, sounds like a REALLY late '65 with pin front end but '66 VIN

But - I am not sure about the wiper switch thing . .

Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:09 am

papertiger_98 wrote: i will go check the pan vin now

checked it and the shocks , the front beam curls out the catch the shock so it will have to be a ball joint i apologize

gblakeney: He doesn't have a linkpin front end. It was miscommunication. To me, that pan sounds like 67, or a 66 with a dual-circut M/C.

Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:46 am

but the vin on the pan is a 69 it is
119 710679

the heater is the pull kind on both sides of the emergency brake
no heater in front

Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:05 am

i could be wrong but i do believe your engine code indicates a 1500cc.....i don't have the list handy.....but i'm almost positive my engine code starts with an f too...and the letter is your best indicator........

Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:12 am

undwirtanzten wrote: also: you are a thrice fan aren't you?

i am not sure what you mean by that

the f is listed as a 40bhp doesn't specify size mine comes from a 66 it is the first year for the 1300