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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Brake Light switch wiring

Author: Danwvw
Posted: Yesterday 11:34 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 2

Just went through this on my 71 Bus, Yes there were two switches in parallel only one has to work to have brake lights. It's designed to turn on the brake fail light on the dash if they both don't activate. My brake light problem turned out not to be the brake switches on the master cylinder but was a problem with my emergency flasher switch.
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: I'm looking at buying a Thing

Author: carsdlt
Posted: Yesterday 11:26 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 3

2X what Wildthings said.....if you're new to the Aircooled world,going to check out a prospective purchase with someone that has some VW mechanical know-how would be recommended. Just remember that the forum is your friend - lots of good folks here ready to help. Good luck.
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Brake Light switch wiring

Author: Captain Spalding
Subject: Re: Brake Light switch wiring
Posted: Yesterday 11:18 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 2

cecil wrote:

Discovered yesterday that I may never have had working brake lights. Power to fuse, but can't find power at brake switch. Starting simple: Looking at the rear brake switch (was told the rear switch is for brake lights) I have a left, right and top male tang. Which is 12 VDC which is to tail lights and what is the other for? And, can I go to a two tang switch if I'm not running a warning light?

I'll take a whack at this, but I don't profess to be an expert.

First off, both the front and rear switches are for brake lights. As you probably already know, the master cylinder is segregated into two hydraulic circuits, front and rear. This redundancy ensures that if there is a leak somewhere in the brake system, only the front or rear brakes will be affected, but not both. There are two brake light switches so that the brake lights will work regardless of whether one of the hydraulic circuits has failed.

Going into each brake light switch are three wires. The black wire carries 12v from fuse no. 2. What should be a smaller black/red wire goes from the brake light switch back to the brake lights. The red wire goes to the warning light.

You might want to look again for power at the brake light switches. Check the black wire, and when you do make sure the ignition is switched on. Fuse 2 only gets power when the key is switched on.

As for going to a 2 tang switch � IMHO the warning light is a worthwhile feature.

BTW, there are some nice wiring diagrams in the technical section.

Thing/Type 181 :: RE: First great synchro?

Author: brooklyn thing
Posted: Yesterday 7:31 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 22

That's true.........fortunately it's pretty flat round these parts.

Thing/Type 181 :: Sacramento Bugorama#71 - who is going?

Author: Solomon Grundy
Subject: Sacramento Bugorama#71 - who is going?
Posted: Yesterday 7:28 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 0

How many 181 friends will be at the Bugorama #71 in Sacramento this weekend?
I may even do the cheese camping overnight in the fields THING. I will bring the wine.

5/26/13 - Sacramento Raceway Park
5305 Excelsior Road � Sacramento, CA 95827

http://www.bugorama.com/events.php

Niello Volkswagen Presents Bugorama #71. The Sacramento Bugorama is like no other VW event in the World. We open the gates on Saturday at 2:00 p.m. to allow for overnight camping, swap meet set-up and test & tune for the drag racers. Sunday is the main day of the Bugorama. This is when we have the car show, finals in drag racing, vendors and all the swap meet will be set-up. The admission price is for both days only.
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: I'm looking at buying a Thing

Author: Wildthings
Posted: Yesterday 6:59 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 3

Rust and other body damage are what will cost you more than anything else. Body parts are plain expensive and hard to find. Most of the rest of the vehicle is shared with the VW Bugs of the same era, so are not hard to come by.

This is a forty year old rig. Expect there to be a lot of jury rigs and deferred maintenance to deal with. Lack of an engine surround seal will mean your engine has been overheated and will probably not last to long.

Check the crankshaft endplay. Take a 2x4 or steel bar and force the crank pulley forward. Then while holding pressure have someone push in on the clutch pedal. You should be able to detect almost no movement at all as they do this. The spec is around .004", IIRC. If you can easily see the crank move then the engine is due for a rebuild, forget reshimming as doing so can not make up for a worn out case.

Your actual mileage is more likely 168K or even 268K, as the odometer does not read over 100K, but goes back to zero. I wouldn't drive it far without checking the torque on the CV bolts and the rear axle nuts, as they are often very loose and will leave you stranded.

Thing/Type 181 :: RE: I'm looking at buying a Thing

Author: xeno
Posted: Yesterday 6:47 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 3

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=488360

^ Sticky

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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: First great synchro?

Author: Wildthings
Posted: Yesterday 6:42 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 22

Trying to pull a steep hill in second that you just can't make and you will just about bend the shift lever jambing it into first as fast and hard as you can.

Thing/Type 181 :: RE: First great synchro?

Author: brooklyn thing
Posted: Yesterday 6:32 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 22

I agree with yellow. Mine won't go into first unless I'm almost completely stopped. Would you really want to shift from second to first ? Doesn't that put alot of stress on the engine? Input shaft? I always thought first is just to get the wheels rolling.

Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Pan Drain Holes

Author: HUGO bOSS
Posted: Yesterday 3:05 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 16

Is there were the rust is born!
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: First great synchro?

Author: yellow73kubel
Posted: Yesterday 2:43 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 22

First gear has always been an issue on my transmission. I've never seen a reason to downshift to first when I'm not stopped. Avoiding that is the easiest solution.

Swepco 201 or Royal Purple gear lube are both good choices for stretching the life of an old box.

Two driving habit things: you know how to double clutch right? Do that on any downshift to first or second. Also, I have found (from a 356 article) that it helps to shift from neutral to second then into first rather than straight to first. The shift is noticeably smoother, and it soon becomes second nature. This is while stopped.

Thing/Type 181 :: Brake Light switch wiring

Author: cecil
Subject: Brake Light switch wiring
Posted: Yesterday 2:28 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 2

Discovered yesterday that I may never have had working brake lights. Power to fuse, but can't find power at brake switch. Starting simple: Looking at the rear brake switch (was told the rear switch is for brake lights) I have a left, right and top male tang. Which is 12 VDC which is to tail lights and what is the other for? And, can I go to a two tang switch if I'm not running a warning light?
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Thing/Type 181 :: I'm looking at buying a Thing

Author: bryanisonfire
Subject: I'm looking at buying a Thing
Posted: Yesterday 2:17 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 3

It's a 1974 with 68k miles.

What are some things to look at/for when I test drive?

What are good questions to ask the owner?

This is my first VW so I don't know much yet.

Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Pan Drain Holes

Author: Big Red Love
Posted: Yesterday 1:33 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 16

I have ghia replacement pans and I just put the rocker type plugs in where the water pooled behind the outside front seat brackets. This is the low spot on both sides of the pans in mine. Found that out after a suprise rain shower.
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Mojave road run

Author: Semper_Dad
Subject: Re: make a list, check it thrice!
Posted: Yesterday 12:13 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 12

doublecanister wrote:

Hey Sam,

what does B.L.T.N stand for?

Better Late Than Never
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Mojave road run

Author: doublecanister
Subject: make a list, check it thrice!
Posted: Yesterday 11:41 am (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 12

Hey Sam,

did you take a air pump for the tires?
some tire Slime incase of a few punctures??

BTW,

what does B.L.T.N stand for?

Hey, do like I do, if you forgot it, it wasnt important...hope someone else
remembered theirs!

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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: "What did you do with your Thing today"?

Author: GI Joe
Posted: Yesterday 11:31 am (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 1273

Yessir!! A blessed day for sure!
Making memories with the young'ns, that's what it's all about!
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: "What did you do with your Thing today"?

Author: 63ziggy
Posted: Yesterday 10:54 am (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 1273

Banner Day!!!!

Congrats!

Thinger still looks great

Thing/Type 181 :: RE: First great synchro?

Author: GI Joe
Posted: Yesterday 10:18 am (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 22

carsdlt wrote:

That's what she said.........

Well played!
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: "What did you do with your Thing today"?

Author: GI Joe
Subject: Last Saturday
Posted: Yesterday 10:15 am (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 1273

Been busy and forgot to post!
We spent last Saturday in/out of the rain for the Knox County Sheriffs office car show. It was a small turnout(50-ish cars) due to the weather, with 50/50 rain/clouds...
Our Thing took home Best import(out of 8 imports present)! There was an awesome Bug there(seen in background), restored stock, that was better in my eyes, but the judges apparently saw it different...

We also won the grand prize door prize which consists of 2 nights in Gatlinburg, 2 meals there, 2 tickets to the skylift thingy, and 2 days useage of a new BMW vert!
Also won some other little bits...
All in all, a Great family day, in spite of the rain!

Had an opportunity to show off our new baby, Lexi, as well! we got her at 4mos from the local Doberman rescue, shes 7 months now!
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Pan Drain Holes

Author: Bashr52
Posted: Yesterday 6:03 am (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 16

It's interesting the drain hole is surrounded by that little depression ring area. Seems like the water would pool here and would never all drain out.

Thing/Type 181 :: RE: First great synchro?

Author: Jschopshop
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:48 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 22

carsdlt wrote:

That's what she said.........

haha!

Thing/Type 181 :: RE: "What did you do with your Thing today"?

Author: Jschopshop
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:44 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 1273

Just got a few extra beams, going to refurbish a late 60's bug beam with drop spindles for my 73, after that work on lowering the rear. have some random pics up soon hopefully!

Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Mojave road run

Author: sam_w
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:52 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 12

Loaded on the trailer, ready to leave tomorrow at 8AM. WIll get my co-pilot Jeff K who has a blue 73 Thing. Will leave the car and trailer in Newberry Springs and drive the Thingster to the AVI Casino for the start of the run at 8AM Friday.

Yes we need sustenance, I will bring beer and wine, on the trail nobody drinks.

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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Mojave road run

Author: Semper_Dad
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:23 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 12

Where's the beer? Need to fuel the driver as well.
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Mojave road run

Author: sam_w
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:15 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 12

I leave early tomorrow morning, and I think I have most of everything. Of course I know I will forget something but I did check out my toolbox carefully so I hope it is only camping stuff left behind.

We will be camping Friday and Saturday nights, so I know there is no water in the pics but I will take at least 4 gallons.

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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Pan Drain Holes

Author: HUGO bOSS
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:55 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 16

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This one is closer...
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Pan Drain Holes

Author: HUGO bOSS
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:53 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 16

Mine have the original floor pans with the holes on them... Look original ones...

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But nothing on them...
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Pan Drain Holes

Author: Ron Domeck
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:47 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 16

The cars I do that is not 100% stock I find a plug about 1 in. and cut the hole to match.

Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Thing reference material

Author: HUGO bOSS
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:18 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 13

Deckard wrote:

In this forum you can find this link
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/thing_parts_manual.php

It is a .pdf of a dealer's microfiche with all the correct parts and part numbers. There are also diagrams for every section. Although there aew some odd parts listed for military models it will def. help you figure out if it belongs or if it's something the previous idiots did to cut corners and save money.

Copy the .pdf to a disc/flash drive and have it copied at FedEX Kinko's. punch 'em and place them in a 3-ring binder. Then all the fun and frustration begins.

Also figure out of you want a stock car or a custom ride, it will definitely make your purchasing decisions easier

This link is nice, but it's strange to see that some references dont apear, like the part number 5 at the page 43...
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Pan Drain Holes

Author: HUGO bOSS
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:07 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 16

Have look to the TDv manual and in the VW catalog for the 181 from 1990, and in the holes in the floor pans, near the batery and for the other side nothing is there...
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Pan Drain Holes

Author: MRJEL
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:57 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 16

ICTrains wrote:

So is there anywhere to get the plugs for these drain holes?

Should be easy to find in most any hardware store.

Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Am now translating the Typ 181 NATO service manual

Author: HUGO bOSS
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:40 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 21

I have some original of them in papper:

TDv 2310/001-12 "Teil 1 Beschreibung; Teil 2 Bedienung und Pflege" - "Part 1 Description; Part 2 Operation and Maintenance"

TDv 2310/001-22 "Teil 22 Fristenheft" - "Part 22 Deadline Issue" - Maintenence records, with dates, kms, oils changes, etc.

TDv 2310/001-30 "Teil 3 Wartung uns Truppeninstandsetzung" - "Part 5 Maintenance repair our troops" - With the instructions for engine and all the mechanics, 195 pages, plus 3 for notes and a big one with the electrical system.

TDv 2310/001-31 "Teil 31 - Arbeitspositionen, Materialerhaltungsstufen, Richtzeiten" - "Part 31 Working positions, material maintenance steps, recommended times" - No pics, just words.

TDv 2310/001-50 "Teil 5 Ersatzteilliste" - "Part 5 Replacemte List" - The one with the VW references - 85 pages

TDv 2310/001-80 "Teil 8 Pr�fanweisung" - "Part 8 Test Instructions" Just words... 56 pages
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Pan Drain Holes

Author: Ron Domeck
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:36 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 16

Nope, first 2 are drain plugs for rockers and the last is the drain in the tunnel at the fork at the rear. Don't think anyone has these new.

Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Pan Drain Holes

Author: ICTrains
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:40 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 16

74 Thing wrote:

http://www.thethingshop.com/searchprods.asp

I'm not sure if this was meant as a hint to "go look for it" or if it is a case of the URL not getting copied correctly.

Here's what I have found:

http://stores.thingparts.com/-strse-121/DRAIN-PLUG/Detail.bok

And

http://www.thethingshop.com/prodinfo.asp?number=111801177

And

http://www.thethingshop.com/prodinfo.asp?number=111701309

None of which sound right based upon Ron's description or the description on the sites.

Sorry for being so obtuse.
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Pan Drain Holes

Author: 74 Thing
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:15 pm (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 16

http://www.thethingshop.com/searchprods.asp

Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Am now translating the Typ 181 NATO service manual

Author: strelnik
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:52 am (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 21

kubelmann wrote:

Thanks for the more accurate translation of the silver plaque. Email me a kmann@romtoc.com and I will send you the German files for translation..

I have now received two of the three manuals but I still need a manaul covering the engine and gearbox
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Thing/Type 181 :: RE: Pan Drain Holes

Author: ICTrains
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:23 am (GMT -7)
Topic Replies: 16

So is there anywhere to get the plugs for these drain holes?
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