Is this a "correct" 1959 Bus Crank Handle?

amishman

I am making a possible trade of my 1958 or older crank handle for this one from a gentleman in Red Bluff area. It is 30" long. Seems way too long for the one I have seen in past threads that supposed to be 22" long where a 1958 or older was 18". He said he pulled it from his 1959 bus he sold. So, is this an actual "stock" handle for a VW or does it look like some other brand that someone just happened to have in his ride?

Curious.

tj

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npbusguy · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:49 am Post subject:

Looks too long to me.

campingbox · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:30 pm Post subject:

Way too long.

amishman · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:37 pm Post subject:

Does it even look like VW anything or just some home-made jobbie or from some other vehicle from back in the day?

tj
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npbusguy · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:21 pm Post subject:

Looks like it is for a tractor. A VW crank handle would have a rotating sleeve to hold onto when starting the bus.

pyrOman · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject:

Looks more like a crank for a scissors jack. Confused

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Dave24 · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:39 pm Post subject:

thom · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject:

You're getting ripped off.

Here's a comparison of the pre and post '59 crank handles

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amishman · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject:

BulliBill · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:06 am Post subject:

I believe that I have one of those long crank start handles in my stash and may be able to shed some light on it. No, it is not the slightly longer 1959 only handle seen in the photo above. It is an VW industrial motor crank start handle, as I have the special frame that mounts to the industrial motor that centers the crank handle on the motor. Pretty cool and rare, but not what you are looking for...

Bill Bowman
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BulliBill · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject:

Okay, I may be doing that mod to an earlier, shorter handle also in the future (for my '59 Double Cab). "Amishman", did you modify your handle yet? I doubt you have since I see you still have the handle/trade ad up. Can anyone out there post a photo of the "longer" 1959 only handle installed on a Bus and ready to turn it over (I just want to see how much clearance there is between the handle and the bumper).

Also, if someone has both types of handles, could you tell/show us exactly how much longer the 1959 handle is from the 1958 and earlier? Thanks for any photos and measurements!

Bill Bowman
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I'm looking for these license plate frames from old Volkswagen dealerships for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton

Thanks for any help!

amishman · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject:

BulliBill · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject:

Yeah, i don't weld yet, so a friend will probably do it for me...

I would imagine that once the handle tubing is cut, and at the site of both welds, a 2" section of inner pipe/tube whose O.D. is the same as the I.D. of the handle tubing is slipped inside the handle tube. Then the new outer piece is slipped on over that and welded giving it strength, then everything ground and sanded to hide the mod, then powder-coat or paint.

But what do I know... there may be a better method, I'll let my buddy decide once we have the correct measurements.

Bill
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I'm looking for these license plate frames from old Volkswagen dealerships for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton

Thanks for any help!

thom · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:08 am Post subject:

The trick to lengthening an earlier crank will be finding the correct OD tubing. I have a crappy split-window bug crank that I bought with the intent of shortening for my '59.

Oh, and here's a pic of an NOS one.

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1956 Single Cab
1957 Porsche 356A Sunroof
1957 23-Window Deluxe
1957 Mercedes Westfalia single cab
1963 Unimog 404
1965 E-Type

thom · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:05 am Post subject:

It feels good to put it in for the first time

Not long enough (that's what she said!)

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1957 Porsche 356A Sunroof
1957 23-Window Deluxe
1957 Mercedes Westfalia single cab
1963 Unimog 404
1965 E-Type

vwboop · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:46 am Post subject:

Anyone know definatively when the crankstart stopped?
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