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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: what is this underdash vent thingy? is it a heater or a/c?? Reply with quote

hey, anybody ever seen one of these? i don't know if it's a heater or an air conditioner. it's got an aluminum element w/ fins inside and what looks to be an in/out connection for fluid. i dunno what you'd run through it... oil or atf??

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is an AC dash unit.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahhh... cool, thanks russ. so this may be a dumb question, but what hooked up to those fluid ports?

personally, i think it'd be nice to make it into a heater. it's damn cold up here in boston!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, If you had a warm water source, you could make it a heater.
Those were the freon lines that connected there.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

think you could (safely) connect the line from the atf cooler? or might you have a problem with the pump and pressure since it'd have to pump it kinda far?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think youd be better off selling the unit to someone in a hotter climate, then taking the money and buying an electric heater or 'made for your car' gas heater like the eberspacher (sp). here is a link for a similar style NOS unit for a type 3.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=231668
some say they are unsafe, because they use fuel straight from the tank, but i dont see how its any less safe the running large amounts of hot oil through a system built for freon.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It also has an AC expnsion valve inside it that would have to be removed.
Beside, VW automatic does not have an ATF cooler.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

right, no cooler - i meant pump... but it's probably better not to try that anyway. i think selling it is the best bet.

the type3 autos still have the same oil/atf pump as type1 autos, right? i started converting a beetle dual port automatic motor to run in a manual and it had an atf pump as part of the oil pump unit.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jw wrote:
i think youd be better off selling the unit to someone in a hotter climate, then taking the money and buying an electric heater or 'made for your car' gas heater like the eberspacher (sp). here is a link for a similar style NOS unit for a type 3.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=231668
some say they are unsafe, because they use fuel straight from the tank, but i dont see how its any less safe the running large amounts of hot oil through a system built for freon.


Electric heaters for VW's are crap and don't work. Fuel is more flamable and explosive than oil.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T3's don't need help with heating anyway - unless you're planning to use one for cremations.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, they may need help with heating if you don't have the heater boxes connected Wink (mine are connected at the moment, for the record)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might seem like a simple question to those T3 gurus out there, but me being an almost VW virgin, I'm not sure:
How would you retrofit an A/C unit such as that to a fuel-injected '72, if possible?

I live in AZ and it would be nice to have A/C in this warm clime.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBeachBoy wrote:
This might seem like a simple question to those T3 gurus out there, but me being an almost VW virgin, I'm not sure:
How would you retrofit an A/C unit such as that to a fuel-injected '72, if possible?

I live in AZ and it would be nice to have A/C in this warm clime.



you would need ALL the bits for it - compressor, AC radiator, coolant lines, interior AC unit.... then fit it all in....
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBeachBoy wrote:
This might seem like a simple question to those T3 gurus out there, but me being an almost VW virgin, I'm not sure:
How would you retrofit an A/C unit such as that to a fuel-injected '72, if possible?

I live in AZ and it would be nice to have A/C in this warm clime.


http://www.gilmore-enterprises.net/GH/index.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drivingpenguin wrote:
right, no cooler - i meant pump... but it's probably better not to try that anyway. i think selling it is the best bet.

the type3 autos still have the same oil/atf pump as type1 autos, right? i started converting a beetle dual port automatic motor to run in a manual and it had an atf pump as part of the oil pump unit.


No. The ATF pump for the type 1 autostick is external, driven off the engine oil pump. Type 2's and 3's have a full auto transmission, with an internal pump (located at the front of the transmission).
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