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Mr. Bubblehead
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 Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: New German Muffler |
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Is $245 a decent price to pay for a new German type 3 muffler? The damper pipe, tip, and hardware is included; however, the upper heat exchangers are not.
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I think that's a little high myself. If it had the upper heat exchangers, it might be worth it.  I did pay $100 for a NOS t-4 muffler with gaskets.  I've seen them advertised for less in the Classifeds, but sometimes they sell quickly. 
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Mr. Bubblehead
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Just for the record I'm not talking NOS or the T4 conversions. Supposedly German t3 mufflers are back in production 
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Bobnotch
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Oh, I thought you were asking about that NOS t-3 muffler that's advertised in the Samba classifieds. Just something to think about, the metal of the newer versions might be a little thinner, and the quality might not be as good. That being said, CIP has new t-3 mufflers with the tip welded in place, and eliminated upper heater boxes for $139.95 (vwc-251-061-falt). They also sell a replacement OE style t-3 muffler (without the tip or upper heater boxes) for $159.95 (vwc-311-251-061-f), but it's for a 72 to 74. The preference though is for the older german mufflers, due to the quality of the metal used in them, and the fact that they are a tuned muffler. Finding good upper heater boxes is the real problem, and Russ has a great solution for the NLA copper gasket used to bolt them to the muffler.
My Notch is running an older german muffler that I got in a parts car (it was never used), but it didn't have the tail pipe. I used a section of Harley Davidson pipe on it for my tail pipe. It's chrome, and gives a slightly different (a little louder) sound than a completely stock muffler set up does. 
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vintagespeedwerks
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| check my ad, i have a set WITH uppers for WAY cheaper than that, mild surface rust from sitting on the shelf 20 years. |
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EverettB 
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: New German Muffler |
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| Mr. Bubblehead wrote: |
| Is $245 a decent price to pay for a new German type 3 muffler? The damper pipe, tip, and hardware is included; however, the upper heat exchangers are not. |
I usually sell the mufflers for $100 with no uppers or exhaust pipes.
Exhaust pipes are $30-$40.
Upper heat exchangers are hard to find sometimes.
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Russ Wolfe
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:44 am Post subject: Re: New German Muffler |
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I usually sell the mufflers for $100 with no uppers or exhaust pipes.
Exhaust pipes are $30-$40.
Upper heat exchangers are hard to find sometimes. |
Yes, I grab every upper heat exchanger I see, if I dont get outbid on them.
To those people putting the tuned exhaust, over the top systems on their cars, I will buy your upper heat exchangers. Just cut them off below the nut next to the muffler, and I will worry about getting the nut out.
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