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AlohaVWfan
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 Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject: BRM Rims |
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im in the process of purchasing a set of BRM rims and would like to know where they were made? they were cast in '97.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Back in 1997, only two companies were casting BRM wheels. Midland Wheel Supply (MWS) out of the UK and Flat-4 out of Japan.
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AlohaVWfan
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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thanks rareair. much appreciated! so it is japanese made, i hope im making the right decision.  lol |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| AlohaVWfan wrote: | | thanks rareair. much appreciated! so it is japanese made, i hope im making the right decision. lol |
Bruddha ya need to buy "REAL BRM's"  Dat right there is the right decision 
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AlohaVWfan
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johnny how much for your set? lol pm me the price. im in seattle where you at?
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| Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: MWS |
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If you must go replica.. I like MSW, they are machine cut, so you don't have two worry about polishing them so often.
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AlohaVWfan
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thanks for all the help in the p.m.'s! ok now since im getting them, would i have any problems mounting them to my stock '66 beetle convertible? i possibly plan to drop the front a lil bit down the road.
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AlohaVWfan
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| mr. warehouse wrote: | | Unless you are going witha narrowed beam you should have went with the MWs ones and got the 4.5's for the front. |
does this mean that if my car is the stock height, the front tires will bluge out of the fenders? btw, i will be running 145's and the 5 " wide brm rims all around. |
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| AlohaVWfan wrote: | | mr. warehouse wrote: | | Unless you are going witha narrowed beam you should have went with the MWs ones and got the 4.5's for the front. |
does this mean that if my car is the stock height, the front tires will bluge out of the fenders? btw, i will be running 145's and the 5 " wide brm rims all around. |
I would stay as far away from the flat 4's as I could get. The "real" mag wheels are prone to cracks and flaws so you need to be very careful and should probably have them X rayed. Mag Masters can check them out for you.
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| 53 0val wrote: | | AlohaVWfan wrote: | | mr. warehouse wrote: | | Unless you are going witha narrowed beam you should have went with the MWs ones and got the 4.5's for the front. |
does this mean that if my car is the stock height, the front tires will bluge out of the fenders? btw, i will be running 145's and the 5 " wide brm rims all around. |
I would stay as far away from the flat 4's as I could get. The "real" mag wheels are prone to cracks and flaws so you need to be very careful and should probably have them X rayed. Mag Masters can check them out for you. |
the newer flat4's or the older ones? in previous threads, i read that it was only on the newer cast flat4's and the wider ones are prone to problems. |
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I really don't know when the problems began......but I have seen two sets of Flat 4's break on the dyno under load. VW Trends put on Dyno days at a local speed shop and I watched as two different sets fell apart that day. That was good enough for me.............................Any set would make me concerned after that. (this was a couple of years ago)
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| 53 0val wrote: | | The "real" mag wheels are prone to cracks and flaws so you need to be very careful and should probably have them X rayed. Mag Masters can check them out for you. |
Why would you subject a brittle 40+ year old wheel to any kind of turture?
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| 53 0val wrote: | | I really don't know when the problems began......but I have seen two sets of Flat 4's break on the dyno under load. VW Trends put on Dyno days at a local speed shop and I watched as two different sets fell apart that day. That was good enough for me.............................Any set would make me concerned after that. (this was a couple of years ago) |
ouch! i read that on the other thread. i personally dont think that i would put the rims thru that much power though. it will be used on a stock beetle with a 1600 sp rim. thanks for the info. this would be something to think about when i decide to add a more powerful engine. |
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| DaveM wrote: | | 53 0val wrote: | | The "real" mag wheels are prone to cracks and flaws so you need to be very careful and should probably have them X rayed. Mag Masters can check them out for you. |
Why would you subject a brittle 40+ year old wheel to any kind of turture? |
My point exactly. Andy Spilkoman about blew his hand off just pressuring one up. Old and real does not mean better in this case.
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Yeah you have to be careful when buying the real BRM's. The last set I sold I had tested for crack's. I just had that discussion a few week's back with Rick Zavala If you guy's are going to pony up the cash for the real deal BRM's and they have a few pit's or been repaired once. Make sure to get them tested for crack's first or you just might be sorry  I've been lucky so far All my BRM's are SHHHHHWEEEEET !
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| 53 0val wrote: | | I really don't know when the problems began......but I have seen two sets of Flat 4's break on the dyno under load. VW Trends put on Dyno days at a local speed shop and I watched as two different sets fell apart that day. That was good enough for me.............................Any set would make me concerned after that. (this was a couple of years ago) |
That's interesting - I've got a set of Flat 4 BRM's and I thought they were supposed to be higher quality than the MWS ones? More accurate, lighter, better made, etc? They're a hell of a lot more expensive - at least double over here. I chose them to run on my 2276cc split bug.
I want to get my wheels re-polished so that they look more like originals - there are at least 3 sets of originals in our club so at least the fakes have got to look the part!
(As a side note, I'd never buy anything from MWS after seeing them *allegedly* rip off another wheel company more than once...)
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