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KG56 Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: Ribbed Fire Truck Semaphores |
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I have a pair of fire truck semophores.
Does anyone know: when they flap up and down - is there a delay before
they start to flap or is it as soon as they are switched on?
Cheers _________________ S.W.K |
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BUCIOBATISTI Samba Member

Joined: April 17, 2002 Posts: 6645 Location: San Diego, California, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: Re: ribbed fire truck semophores |
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| KG56 wrote: | I have a pair of fire truck semophores.
Does anyone know: when they flap up and down - is there a delay before
they start to flap or is it as soon as they are switched on?
Cheers |
I don't have an answer to your question but a good number of us over here in the States refer to those semaphores as "Clackers" since they make a clacking noise when they flap. _________________ Please visit my website at http://www.holygrailgarage.com to see more interesting and collectible Vintage VWs and Parts for sale. Thanks.
"I love the Roadster!"
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UZI Platinum FUBU

Joined: February 08, 2002 Posts: 12854 Location: phila-DELFT-ia
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: |
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this bus had them when it was imported to the US. unfortunately the clackers were removed. as a result, the rest of us are now deprived of the knowledge of their operation.
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bubblehead Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:15 am Post subject: |
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If I recall correctly, there is really no delay.However they do go down a
little faster than they go up do to weight/gravity.I had a pair of these I traded for another set without knowing at the time what i had.I'm going to go kick myself some more now  |
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bubblehead Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:20 am Post subject: |
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As far as there operation, I think there is something in the mechanism that breaks the circuit once its fully extended, causing it to drop with its
own weight. Once it drops it flows juice to the solenoid again. |
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jasonvw Samba Member

Joined: June 22, 2005 Posts: 608 Location: so cal since 87
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| I have a set on my 50 Split and they fire right up as soon as you turn the switch. they shoot up fairly quick like a regular semi, but they go down under the power of gravity like someone above said. once they hit the bottom, they shoot right up again. |
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DaveM Mad Samba Scientist

Joined: June 11, 2002 Posts: 3022 Location: Dry side of Oregon
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:21 am Post subject: |
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I've often wondered if my 59 Austrian firebus should have clackers or just std. semaphores. _________________ Sounding like a broken record as to why You should be measuring protein during harvest in order to better your agronomic practices. |
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bubba Samba Member

Joined: May 09, 2004 Posts: 1885 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| I have 12 volt going thru mine. They go up very fast. ut they come down just as fast. They work by heating up the coils on the inside, it may take a while to heat yours to work. |
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derv  Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2005 Posts: 2617 Location: Oak Park (Chicago), IL
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| UZI wrote: | | unfortunately the clackers were removed |
Why were they removed?  _________________ Jack
| Quote: | | Mr. Hido: To post your bare ass to virtually all hardened bus enthusiasts casts thick, a slag not easily ground smooth. |
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Damon22 Samba Member

Joined: January 03, 2006 Posts: 233 Location: New Forest, Ingerland.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| The one's I saw last week had a lead weight in the end of each that isnt there on the standard semaphore. |
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bubba Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:16 am Post subject: |
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UZI Platinum FUBU

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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: |
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are those "clackers" or regular semaphores? _________________ ﻥ ﺥﻡ‎
[quote="mannys66"]South Philly Van Club, only the most influential and freshest van club in the vw scene[/quote]
[quote="Cuñado"]Chrome will get you home!!!!!!!!!![/quote] |
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KG56 Samba Member

Joined: February 04, 2004 Posts: 107 Location: Kernow (Cornwall)
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all your help guys
I'll go a wire mine up and see what happens now. _________________ S.W.K |
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BUCIOBATISTI Samba Member

Joined: April 17, 2002 Posts: 6645 Location: San Diego, California, USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| derv wrote: | | UZI wrote: | | unfortunately the clackers were removed |
Why were they removed?  |
Because the Bus was a victim of a Merzicization. _________________ Please visit my website at http://www.holygrailgarage.com to see more interesting and collectible Vintage VWs and Parts for sale. Thanks.
"I love the Roadster!"
-Charlie Hamill
"No dongs."
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derv  Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2005 Posts: 2617 Location: Oak Park (Chicago), IL
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| BUCIOBATISTI wrote: | | derv wrote: | | UZI wrote: | | unfortunately the clackers were removed |
Why were they removed?  |
Because the Bus was a victim of a Merzicization. |
I remember - I was just trying to fire up Uzi. He is way to mellow these days. _________________ Jack
| Quote: | | Mr. Hido: To post your bare ass to virtually all hardened bus enthusiasts casts thick, a slag not easily ground smooth. |
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dash52 Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| DaveM wrote: | | I've often wondered if my 59 Austrian firebus should have clackers or just std. semaphores. |
...Hi Dave ! I know a '59 firetruck in the german Bulli Kartei club, that still has his OG semaphores, they are "clackers" as you call them! the bus was repainted years ago, in the original red, but the semaphores are still black, never painted... The owner told me at least 11 years ago the story on these "clackers", when I was looking for standard ribbed ones for my own bus at that timeso, I guess an Austrian firetruck should be the same as german '59 firetrucks, AND ambulances... |
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DaveM Mad Samba Scientist

Joined: June 11, 2002 Posts: 3022 Location: Dry side of Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| dash52 wrote: | | DaveM wrote: | | I've often wondered if my 59 Austrian firebus should have clackers or just std. semaphores. |
...Hi Dave ! I know a '59 firetruck in the german Bulli Kartei club, that still has his OG semaphores, they are "clackers" as you call them! the bus was repainted years ago, in the original red, but the semaphores are still black, never painted... The owner told me at least 11 years ago the story on these "clackers", when I was looking for standard ribbed ones for my own bus at that timeso, I guess an Austrian firetruck should be the same as german '59 firetrucks, AND ambulances... |
Thanks!
Out of curiosity, anyone know how an Austrian firebus siren should sound... should the pattern be high tone, low tone or reverse with the low tone horn sounding first? _________________ Sounding like a broken record as to why You should be measuring protein during harvest in order to better your agronomic practices. |
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dash52 Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| DaveM wrote: | | dash52 wrote: | | DaveM wrote: | | I've often wondered if my 59 Austrian firebus should have clackers or just std. semaphores. |
...Hi Dave ! I know a '59 firetruck in the german Bulli Kartei club, that still has his OG semaphores, they are "clackers" as you call them! the bus was repainted years ago, in the original red, but the semaphores are still black, never painted... The owner told me at least 11 years ago the story on these "clackers", when I was looking for standard ribbed ones for my own bus at that timeso, I guess an Austrian firetruck should be the same as german '59 firetrucks, AND ambulances... |
Thanks!
Out of curiosity, anyone know how an Austrian firebus siren should sound... should the pattern be high tone, low tone or reverse with the low tone horn sounding first? |
...hi Dave, as far as I know, firetrucks had 2 Bosch siren-horns mounted on the front bumper, but I have no idea how they should sound... also, for the Austrian market, they might sound different too, compared to german ones...? anyone else knows more on thes sirens
...I`ve been thinking this afternoon about the clacker semaphores, in about 17 years, I saw 4 pair for sale, 3 of them where all orig. paint, and all of them where black, ribbed ones... |
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BUCIOBATISTI Samba Member

Joined: April 17, 2002 Posts: 6645 Location: San Diego, California, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| BUCIOBATISTI wrote: | | derv wrote: | | UZI wrote: | | unfortunately the clackers were removed |
Why were they removed?  |
Because the Bus was a victim of a Merzicization. |
I introduced Mr. Merz to this new term at the Classic. _________________ Please visit my website at http://www.holygrailgarage.com to see more interesting and collectible Vintage VWs and Parts for sale. Thanks.
"I love the Roadster!"
-Charlie Hamill
"No dongs."
-Neil "NPBUSGUY" |
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UZI Platinum FUBU

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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:55 am Post subject: |
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is the definition of "merzicization" trying to sell someone a bus that you don't own and then telling them how much stuff is not correct when you know that the previous year you went ballistic when someone pointed out wrong logos on your windows of a bus you were all proud of?
or is it annoying so many people that a plan evolves for someone to take a dump in your NOS westy toilet? _________________ ﻥ ﺥﻡ‎
[quote="mannys66"]South Philly Van Club, only the most influential and freshest van club in the vw scene[/quote]
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