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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2002 3:07 pm    Post subject: Narrow Rear Suspension Reply with quote

Hello,
I am looking for some information/ideas on how to narrow the rear suspension on a 58 bug. I am in the process of doing a full body off resurection. Does anyone out there have any experience with this?
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 11:02 pm    Post subject: Narrow Rear Suspension Reply with quote

Ron Lumus Racing had an article in hot vw\s a few years back. They do it. A little chunk of work though. I think it looks bad-ass myself along with a narrowed front beam. I say if you can do it, go for it.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have done some looking and can't find much info on narrowing the rear. I would really like to get some stock wheels widened outward giving the deep dish look.

Anyone know what issue the Ron Lummus article on narrowing the rear end was in?

The pile of work doesn't scare me, but I would rather not "re-invent the wheel" if I don't have to. Pun intended...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oooollllldddddd topic, but I am looking for some info as well? Any ideas?

I have seenn some centerline rims that were 15x10, is that too wide? obviously I need to narrow the axles and mod the arms, I have a '65, so it is the older suspension type.

Any ideas?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OTTOMH, I think it's the Apr 94 issue.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone have any pictures of one that way?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

61bug wrote:
anyone have any pictures of one that way?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my son has done 2 of these. a 63 narrowed 2" per side and his latest 67 is 3" per side. i have pictures of them. the article in hot vw's says 2" -but that is a misprint. it should be 3" per side/ when we did the 63 we used the article for reference. only 2 sets of 2" shorter axles were made by sway away and they said was unusual. do the 3" and lots of axles are out there.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rloaircool wrote:
61bug wrote:
anyone have any pictures of one that way?

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That thing looks raw!! just f#%$ beafy.. I like that Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bill may wrote:
my son has done 2 of these. a 63 narrowed 2" per side and his latest 67 is 3" per side. i have pictures of them. the article in hot vw's says 2" -but that is a misprint. it should be 3" per side/ when we did the 63 we used the article for reference. only 2 sets of 2" shorter axles were made by sway away and they said was unusual. do the 3" and lots of axles are out there.



What size rims did he use on the back? And how did he go about modding the rear suspension, I assume new 3in axels abut what about the tubes and spring plates?

Last question, how can you find back issues of VW magazine?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTT...

i'm interested in this topic too.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8 or 8.5 by 15 centerline convo pro with mickey thompson street slicks 10.5 x 15. he was fast67bug on samba try search as i think there are pictures on here some place or i can email them to a email address. it has 1" between adj spring plates and 1.5 between stock fender lip. so yes the 10.5 x 15 tires fit inside stock 67 rear fenders.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last question, how can you find back issues of VW magazine?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject: Narrow Rear Reply with quote

That Convert is Mine. If you can cut and weld it is a little bit of work.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject: Narrow Rear Reply with quote

Here are some pictures of cutting and pasting
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Narrow Rear Reply with quote

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It looks to my eye that the lower shock mount was welded on too far towards the inner pivot of the TA. It looks like the shock will be at quite an angle instead of straight up and down. Have you test fitted a shock?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Narrow Rear Reply with quote

Yes it has been welded closer to the trailing arm pivot because there is 4.75 inches out of each side, 9.5 inches total. the bottom mount lines up with the upper shock. When you remove this much out of each side things ARE going to look closer!
I've got shocks in it with the body on, and the shocks don't have any problem moving.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm building a fiberglass buggy and I want to narrow the rear so my tires don't stick a mile out the sides. If I narrow it 3" each side what axles do I use. Somewhere I read that you have to us the axles out of a semi-auto bug... one side shorter than the other or something?? Can someone tell me what axles I should use. I have a 74' IRS pan.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The axles in an autostick Beetle are the same as those in a 4 speed. You are thinking about the axles in a full automatic Type 3. The left one is 26mm shorter than a Beetle axle. But that's no help to you. For a 3" chop, you need custom axles from SAW.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it fair to say that if I reduce the width of the torsion housing on one side by 3" that the axle would need to be 3" shorter as well or am I best to do the modification and use my old axles to figure out a length? Is there a chart someplace that relates axle length to torsion length?
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