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walter kandetzki
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 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject: thermostat parts on my 68 |
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| hi guys i am currently redoing my 68's thermostat set up and i noticed in pics that they have a cable on the air cleaner and i was wondering where the cable to ran to?does it run to the thermostat or something?if so does anyone have pictures?my 68 was missing it when i got it.thanks |
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nc68bugman
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| It hooks to the cooling flaps on rear facing side, rare to find that bowden cable intact and don't know where You would find one now a days that works. Scott |
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68Bug-lite
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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At the bottom right of this shroud, you can see the silver rectangular lever that the cable attaches to. The lever is welded onto the cooling shutter/flap. Dont know where to get a new cable, maybe a bicycle brake line?
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walter kandetzki
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| do you have a close up picture of that?thanks |
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68Bug-lite
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Shown in the open position...
The shutter assembly in the following photo is not from a 68, but I've shown where the shaft would extend out to accomodate that bracket...
Peace, Greg
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walter kandetzki
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks for the pic..also is there a difference between the doghouse and non doghouse rod )the one that connects the flaps from the right side to the left thats is behind the fan housing?).thanks |
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68Bug-lite
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, the doghouse version has three pieces and extends further out to clear the now protruding oil cooler...
The shutters themselves are exactly the same. Seen the linkage come up here in the classifieds all the time. |
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wcfvw69
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| nc68bugman wrote: | | It hooks to the cooling flaps on rear facing side, rare to find that bowden cable intact and don't know where You would find one now a days that works. Scott |
The "bowden" cable's are out there but you have to look HARD! I finally found one for my 69 engine here or Ebay after looking for several months. There is a spring that is part of the cable at the top where it attaches to the oil bath. It closes the warm air going to the carb when the thermostat fully opens the air flaps in the fan schroud. It's pretty cool to see the set up work.
Here is a picture of my 69 engine. It now has the correct distributor cap and the rest of the missing clamps.
If you look at the top right of the oil bath you can see how it hooks up to the oil bath. The big end of the cable is the spring.
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walter kandetzki
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| does anyone know the part number for the cable?thanks |
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wcfvw69
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| walter kandetzki wrote: | | does anyone know the part number for the cable?thanks |
cable 113 129 917A
Sleeve 113 129 915A
Both of these are NLA (no longer available).
I do see them for sale occasionally here or E-bay.
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djminderman
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| I have the same problem. I purchased a Toro lawn mower control cable that I will try to modify for my 68 Ghia. |
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Goranothos
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| wcfvw69, could I see a close up pic of where the cable attaches to the air cleaner? |
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wcfvw69
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| Goranothos wrote: | | wcfvw69, could I see a close up pic of where the cable attaches to the air cleaner? |
Here ya go. CLick on the picture and it will get bigger.
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stevewp
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Does anyone have a picture of how the cable routes around the generator shaft? I am trying to assemble this cable now and want to make sure it is right.
I would like to see what hardware is used to attach the cable to the shroud.
My engine is missing the wire inside the cable. Any good sources?
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Eric Outland
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:44 am Post subject: Thermostat Cable and set-up |
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I used a set of cables. I went to the local Wal-mart in the Bike section and they sell in a package Brake cables which are just about the same push pull cable diameter and cable sheath diameter as well. Also you can cut to length as well. took a 3/8 inch diameter drill and wrapped the cable end around the smooth part of the shank of the drill to get the spring like end of the push pull cable. looked exact!. My concern was function however and all worked Great. This is a good copy for the guy who is still trying to locate the original. I finally found an original Cable on the Samba 3 weeks ago. I had been looking for about a year and a half.
The picture up above that has the Cable Clamp or Clip that go's on the Aircleaner flap= it's item C anyone have an extra or one they want to sell?? I am in need. Thanks Eric (VMR) |
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stevewp
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Eric -
Can you tell me if it wraps to the left of where the generator meets with the fan shroud?
Steven
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i-cortin
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: Thermostat Cable and set-up |
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| Eric Outland wrote: | I used a set of cables. I went to the local Wal-mart in the Bike section and they sell in a package Brake cables which are just about the same push pull cable diameter and cable sheath diameter as well...
The picture up above that has the Cable Clamp or Clip that go's on the Aircleaner flap= it's item C anyone have an extra or one they want to sell?? I am in need. Thanks Eric (VMR) |
Well, guess that this works for the cable, now I wonder what one could use for the "clip" - bet these are REALLY hard to find! |
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Eric Outland
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: Eric (VMR) |
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Steve the cable will run straight with the bend beginning inbetween the Carb and coil. If you try and use to short of cable it will bind. Its pretty easy to figure out. You can as well make your own cable Clamp and attach it to the existing Thermostat attachment screw that holds the right side thermostat shutter vains into the fan shroud. This will allow for the Cable to push pull.
I think i may know where to get the clip/clamp for the Aircleaner. Will have to check with a certain Vendor first to make sure it will work. Eric (VMR) |
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lewis71bug
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Eric (VMR) |
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| Eric Outland wrote: | Steve the cable will run straight with the bend beginning inbetween the Carb and coil. If you try and use to short of cable it will bind. Its pretty easy to figure out. You can as well make your own cable Clamp and attach it to the existing Thermostat attachment screw that holds the right side thermostat shutter vains into the fan shroud. This will allow for the Cable to push pull.
I think i may know where to get the clip/clamp for the Aircleaner. Will have to check with a certain Vendor first to make sure it will work. Eric (VMR) |
By "bike brake cable", do you mean the stranded cable? How were you able to get it to keep a "spring" like bend? Also, can you post some pictures of how you attached it?
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