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superbtl Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2005 Posts: 687
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: type 4 bus engine into beetle |
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whats the differance between a type 4 bus or type 4 porsche engine. is it a good swap to throw a type 4 bus engine into a bug. |
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bugnut68 Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2003 Posts: 4180 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Probably want to do a search on this one, as it's been covered quite a bit. Jake Raby's the man to talk to when it comes to Type 4's... |
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superbtl Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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whats the major differance between the two type 4 engines |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76937 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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The heads are a bit different. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
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werka Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2006 Posts: 1110 Location: Huntsville, AL
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nextgen Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2004 Posts: 6028 Location: CONGERS, N.Y.
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Go here and also and click on the index on the right of the page. All you whan to know
http://tunacan.net/t4/owners/
Sample: all the T-4 blocks are similar and rarely see wear.
Engines: 411 412 912e 914 72 and later buses.
The engines range in sizes from 1700 1800 and 2000 all stock.
the 2000 914 has different heads then the 2000 VW. Cranks and rods differ but all fit the case. 1700 and 1800 heads can be opened to receive 2.0 p/c's
Lifters and Push rod tubes can be replaced without removing the heads.
Being much larger then a T-4 a T-4 in a T-1 car runs very cool. Never an overheating problem.
The engine bolts into a T-1 car after an upright conversion easier then the original T-1 engine and no modifications to the body of the car.
OK go to the sites and read the rest, my fingers are getting tired.
Joe www.nextgen-usa.com _________________ email: [email protected]
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craigman Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 2397 Location: redding
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:09 am Post subject: |
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If it's a bus engine, be sure to check the heads for cracks. They live a hard life in a bus. |
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tuna Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2004 Posts: 475 Location: Fontana, SoCal, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: |
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If you want to learn about the Type 4 engine, I'd like to point you to my web site:
Type 4: Secrets Revealed
I wrote it exactly for people interested in the Type 4 but had no clue about what makes the Type 4 different from a Type 1, and how to get the most from it.
Have a read and let us know if you have any questions.
Tuna _________________ Click to view image
Type 4: Secrets Revealed
Tom's Type 4 Corner
EMPI Imp Homepage
1970 EMPI Imp
1969 Bug - 2056cc Type 4 powered Cal-Look'r |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Suggestion:
Take that engine you have now over to Gregg's VW in Natick MA and have him dial in those carbs. Fix what you have first. |
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melville Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2006 Posts: 1246 Location: Just Outside the Redwood Curtain
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Randy in Maine wrote: |
Suggestion:
Take that engine you have now over to Gregg's VW in Natick MA and have him dial in those carbs. Fix what you have first. |
You don't think a T4 wants to run through his 4.37 X 1.14 top gear? Just like Bus! How'd all that fancy stuff make it East of the Colorado river? When I lived back East, the local expert could tell the difference between SP and DP motors on a good day!
Like Randy said, dance with the one who brung ya (or the one you brung).
Later
Mel _________________ 2000 M Roadster
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superbtl Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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im not doing a type 4 my buddy just got one for $100. gregs in natick ....i will have to give him a call. natick is about 1 hr away i dont think the bug would make it without exploding unfortunately |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Drive 50 all the way there.
Ask him what it would cost to gear it up enough so that you could actually drive it on the road. |
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superbtl Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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if i drive %) for 10 minutes my oil temps are about 230 degrees. nevermind driving 1 hr. i might just get it towed |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Call them up first and talk to him. He may point you someplace closer to where ever you are. He is going to want to know the details of the engine build (size, camshaft, heads, distributor and timing, valve sizes, compression ratio, valve train geometry, and who built it), so be prepared to answer those questions about it.
You want to be there as they are adjusting things so that you can learn out of this deal.
Be prepared to pay. When you are good at what you do, you do not have to work for nothing. |
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