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vdubjim Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2004 Posts: 684 Location: okc
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: REAR trailing arm Q |
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i did a search didnt net anything useful.
Are thing and bug rear trailing arms the same width, for tire track? |
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kubelmann Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2003 Posts: 3266
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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pmail me and I will discuss this. I have the arms you seek. K-mann |
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MedicTed Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 2110 Location: King of Prussia, PA
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Not to highjack his thread but this is in the same line, are the bushings in the trailing arms the same Beetle and Thing? _________________ Ted Wojton
70 VW Bus Westfalia camper
2003 GMC Sierra |
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vdubjim Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2004 Posts: 684 Location: okc
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:22 am Post subject: |
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kubelmann wrote: |
pmail me and I will discuss this. I have the arms you seek. K-mann |
this was not a wanted to buy ad. i just want the info i have no need for arms. |
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kubelmann Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: |
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The Thing arms will bolt into a bug without frame modification but will add about 1" per side in tire track. Also the bug arms and Thng arms use the same inner rubber/Urethane bushings. K-mann |
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Brian T. Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2003 Posts: 194 Location: Hemet Ca.
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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I thought the thing rear arms are the same as the bug arms. The drums are about an 1" wider. And the shock mount is about an 1"-1.5 higher on the thing arm. The drive axles are actually alittle shorter on the thing than on the bug. So I cant see how the arms would be wider. I have a set of both I could measure them to be sure. I will be changing to the thing arms on my bug. Mostly for the wide 5 drums and higher shock mount, and they came as a unit so I can just do the complete swap.
Brian
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mattt Samba Member
Joined: January 20, 2004 Posts: 1143
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thing rear arms are the same width and length as Bug arms. Bushings are the same too. The only difference that Ive seen is how low the lower shock mount hangs down. On the Thing arm it is tucked up a bit higher. The additional width that K-mann mentioned is achieved by the drums. Thing rear drums are wider than Bug drums. However, they are NOT wider on the inside. Thing drums use the same shoe, backing plate, and hardware as a Bug. You can mount Thing brakes, & Thing stubs on a Bug arm & vice versa, there is no problem with interchanging parts between Bug and Thing. Hope this helps. |
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mattt Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Brian T. wrote: |
I thought the thing rear arms are the same as the bug arms. The drums are about an 1" wider. And the shock mount is about an 1"-1.5 higher on the thing arm. The drive axles are actually alittle shorter on the thing than on the bug. So I cant see how the arms would be wider. I have a set of both I could measure them to be sure. I will be changing to the thing arms on my bug. Mostly for the wide 5 drums and higher shock mount, and they came as a unit so I can just do the complete swap.
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Brian,
Have you decided to keep the Baja? I thought it was up for sale. |
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Brian T. Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2003 Posts: 194 Location: Hemet Ca.
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Matt,
I sold the engine. I am now thinking of keeping it for a while. My problem is I get bored easy. And after driving newer vehicles. I like the comforts they offer. So I am still looking for a newer semi offroad vehicle. The toyota land cruiser is one I am looking at. I dont want to get a new toy and take it out and rub against any branches or whaterver. And I still what to tinker abit. I just want to get something the four of us can get into and not be uncomfortable.
Brian |
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vdubjim Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2004 Posts: 684 Location: okc
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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thanks matt
SO to answer my question, the arms are the same track wise, its the DRUMS that cause the 1"-ish wider track? |
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mattt Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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vdubjim wrote: |
thanks matt
SO to answer my question, the arms are the same track wise, its the DRUMS that cause the 1"-ish wider track? |
Correct. |
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mattt Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Brian T. wrote: |
Matt,
I sold the engine. I am now thinking of keeping it for a while. My problem is I get bored easy. And after driving newer vehicles. I like the comforts they offer. So I am still looking for a newer semi offroad vehicle. The toyota land cruiser is one I am looking at. I dont want to get a new toy and take it out and rub against any branches or whaterver. And I still what to tinker abit. I just want to get something the four of us can get into and not be uncomfortable.
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Are you looking at the older FJ Landcruisers, or a newer one? Landcruisers are definitely cool. Had I not found a deal on a 69 Bronco, I would have been looking for an FJ. Im gearing up right now to work on the Bronco. |
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Brian T. Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2003 Posts: 194 Location: Hemet Ca.
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Matt,
I am looking for a 80 series 95-97, Or a Lexus 450 96-97. These are great and have all the modern features. They can be had for between 8k-12k. The engines are good to around 300k.
Brian |
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Runboy Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2007 Posts: 298 Location: Antioch Ca - Soon to be Crescent City Ca
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:50 am Post subject: Thing rear arm/spring plate vs. bug? |
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Can someone please explain the difference in the thing rear suspension vs. bug as far as ride height? If the arms are similar, are the torsion tubes/stops different to allow them to be set at a greater angle stock? Or?
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Mike |
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uberautowerks Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2005 Posts: 1600 Location: Longmont Co
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Thing rear arm/spring plate vs. bug? |
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Runboy wrote: |
Can someone please explain the difference in the thing rear suspension vs. bug as far as ride height? If the arms are similar, are the torsion tubes/stops different to allow them to be set at a greater angle stock? Or?
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Mike |
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On the IRS suspension cars the spring plates are at a higher angle (or lower angle - whatever!) and the CV's are different, that is the CV can handle the higher angle. Also the bump stops are thing only! _________________ --- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.
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'74 Thing (White)
'71 Single cab (White too)
'70 Weekender (White three)
'05 Evolution VIII (White also!!!)
'68 F-250 (White over black) |
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