Joined: September 21, 2007 Posts: 39 Location: Finland Europe
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:35 am Post subject:
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The internals of the muffler are completely different
Everybody keeps saying that but does anybody REALLY know how much better these will flow than original or is it only better looking and sounding unit (wich is enough for some people)!? If the hp gain is ~1-2hp from original I think it is waste of time and money...
self made merged header with proper muffler will do the job much better =)
p.s.Vintage look is different thing!
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 8632 Location: Southampton U.K.
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:24 am Post subject:
oval-55 wrote:
Everybody keeps saying that but does anybody REALLY know how much better these will flow than original or is it only better looking and sounding unit (wich is enough for some people)!? If the hp gain is ~1-2hp from original I think it is waste of time and money...
self made merged header with proper muffler will do the job much better =)
p.s.Vintage look is different thing!
If you scroll down on this topic on my website forum you'll find an extract from the early '60s book "Souping The Volkswagen".
This was the informed opinion "back in the day". I'm sure you could do better today but that isn't, (I'm sure you realise) why Vintage Speed people prefer the 4 Tip Exhaust.
Joined: August 18, 2003 Posts: 24 Location: Heavenly Hills of California
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: Abarf growl
It is all about the look baby!!!!!! The growl is nice too! 4 chrome tips purring at you, yeah!
ORDER 4 FRO THE GUY, FOR THE CLUB AND GET THEM WHOLESALE.
Me and Kimball went in on 4 and got the deal. Make sure he sends the instlallation kit, and doesn't forget. _________________ *****Please email me directly at: [email protected]
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Joined: August 18, 2003 Posts: 24 Location: Heavenly Hills of California
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:16 am Post subject: a-barf
I forgot to share one detail. The black coating is junk and will come right off with your fingernail. IN theory, if you get it on and burn the coating on, it will stay, so they asy...
I bought all stainless, without the black. Love the fit, quality and sound. Mine were from Europe, I know nothing of the ones from CIP1. They might be from the same guy????? _________________ *****Please email me directly at: [email protected]
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Joined: September 21, 2007 Posts: 39 Location: Finland Europe
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:30 am Post subject:
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If you scroll down on this topic on my website forum you'll find an extract from the early '60s book "Souping The Volkswagen".
This was the informed opinion "back in the day". I'm sure you could do better today but that isn't, (I'm sure you realise) why Vintage Speed people prefer the 4 Tip Exhaust.
Thanks for that link!
...there might be some gain in hp but looks is the main thing
Everybody says that these are very good guality and fitting is perfect => I think that there is only one way to go: order one
Joined: October 23, 2007 Posts: 43 Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:01 am Post subject:
oval-55 wrote:
Quote:
If you scroll down on this topic on my website forum you'll find an extract from the early '60s book "Souping The Volkswagen".
This was the informed opinion "back in the day". I'm sure you could do better today but that isn't, (I'm sure you realise) why Vintage Speed people prefer the 4 Tip Exhaust.
Thanks for that link!
...there might be some gain in hp but looks is the main thing
Everybody says that these are very good guality and fitting is perfect => I think that there is only one way to go: order one
Ordered mine around christmas and we finally got around installing it this week... holy schmoly batman, it sure was worth the wait!
The looks are just perfect, and the sound is much more deeper and meaner, in a sporty way. I could swear that in contrast the noise inside the car was audibly reduced -> somehow the deeper tone just doesn't enter the car as much as with the stock exhaust?? Anyways, outside the car it's clearly louder than stock, not too much though
We had to cut out about 1-2cm from the lower exhaust intakes to make it fit the car, but i strongly suspect this was because of the heat exchangers as they're most likely some bad quality aftermarket ones..
To sum it up: couldn't be any more pleased with the exhaust! _________________ http://vw64.tumblr.com/
Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 815 Location: Santa Clara, CA
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject:
oval-55 wrote:
We had to cut out about 1-2cm from the lower exhaust intakes to make it fit the car, but i strongly suspect this was because of the heat exchangers as they're most likely some bad quality aftermarket ones..
To sum it up: couldn't be any more pleased with the exhaust!
I had the cut my lower exhaust intakes as well to get it to fit properly and I have original heater boxes ...and I completely agree, I'm extremely happy with my exhaust too it sounds great! _________________ DBK Nor Cal
I want one too!! but im wondering how many different people are making them?? and which are the best out there?? we have the ones from steph . the ones from flat 4 . the ones from cip 1 , and there is a guy selling some from austrailia . are they all the same? which ones are the best for your buck? ... ahh decisions!
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 8632 Location: Southampton U.K.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject:
DEUCE-TRE' wrote:
I want one too!! but im wondering how many different people are making them?? and which are the best out there?? we have the ones from steph . the ones from flat 4 . the ones from cip 1 , and there is a guy selling some from austrailia . are they all the same? which ones are the best for your buck? ... ahh decisions!
Joined: May 03, 2000 Posts: 5819 Location: back to living where hell meets the suface
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:26 pm Post subject:
John Moxon wrote:
gimmesomeshelter wrote:
Hello-
Does anyone know if Mr. Wob is still making these mufflers for his vendors (e.g. CIP1)? If not, I think I need buy one before they're all gone.
Paul
Buy one while you can.
How do you get hold of Mr. Wob? _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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Joined: October 23, 2007 Posts: 43 Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:51 pm Post subject:
splitpile wrote:
John Moxon wrote:
gimmesomeshelter wrote:
Hello-
Does anyone know if Mr. Wob is still making these mufflers for his vendors (e.g. CIP1)? If not, I think I need buy one before they're all gone.
Paul
Buy one while you can.
How do you get hold of Mr. Wob?
When i looked for the exhaust, you simply couldn't get hold of him. Only way was to buy from vendors who had stock, got mine from BBT in Belgium. _________________ http://vw64.tumblr.com/
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...and I completely agree, I'm extremely happy with my exhaust too it sounds great!
