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Spanish Flea
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Rally badge, but that one's not real.
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Wrong finish..........wrong pin......wrong backing.
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| 53 0val wrote: |
| Wrong finish..........wrong pin......wrong backing. |
Well i've got two questions.
What was the Rally about?
And what would be the correct details?
Are there any photos of a correct badge?
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This badge has be covered several times in here before. The badge was a Nazi Party rally in Hannover. Its main goal was to collect money and show support for the "Party"..........it's emphasis was the Hitler Youth. The badge came in a silver finish with three different color leather backs that corresponded to the uniform colors of the services. The pin on the reverse was a "safety" style pin that was attached to the leather backing with a "brown" glue.
Do a search, if you need pictures, there are many in here.
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Spanish Flea
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So this is a original?
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It looks OG. The real test would be a "black" light on the glue. The finish is correct, and the leather shows the appropriate shrinkage on the front and the texture and color is correct on the reverse. It has a much better chance at being original than the one you first posted.
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Not trying to high jack this thread but what is the story on this piece Bob? I had it a while and was told you would have found these screwed to the top of a pen for a high official at the factory?
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Never existed Carlos..................Post war fantasy piece. Pole tops......"standard" tops.......are a very collectable 3rd Reich artifacts, and have been well studied and documented for many years. Flags were perhaps the most important visual aspect of the Nazi movement, and this carry-over from the age of heraldry is still very important to the German people. The construction of that "pen" top is very poor. The Germans were very skilled at metal work during the pre-war years, and would never had put that quality of "casting" out. This is typical to post war fakes with regard to its lack of quality.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:30 am Post subject: KDF pin |
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Bob,
How about this one??
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:50 am Post subject: Re: KDF pin |
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| enjoy the VieW wrote: |
Bob,
How about this one??
Thx
Frank
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Right material, correct pin, correct glue. It looks good Frank. I'd hit it with a black light just to be sure.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:59 am Post subject: black light |
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Bob,
What happens with the glue?
Different color?
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| enjoy the VieW wrote: |
Bob,
What happens with the glue?
Different color?
Thx
Frank |
Under a black light the glue will show no reflection. It will look like a dark mark. It will not glow.
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| why the eagle isn't looking to the left? |
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| why the eagle isn't looking to the left? |
Political eagle vs Military eagle................Guess what this one is. 
That's the simple answer........there was actually several different eagle shapes in the Third Reich (four different National Eagle shapes and perhaps as many as 12 different organization shapes.) The direction of the head before the war vs the the direction of the head during the war depended upon whether the organization was politically funded or whether the military funded the organization. (During the war several political eagles changed direction. ) You should also note that the swastika moved to a different axis after Germany attacked Poland. By looking at the eagle you can tell if it was a political organization or a military organization and if you're really savvy, you can even know the approximate year of the award by looking at the angle of the swastika arms. Probably too much information................ The badge is correct.
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| why the eagle isn't looking to the left? |
Depends which perspsctive you are looking at it from.
From the eagle point of view, he is looking to the left. 
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| why the eagle isn't looking to the left? |
Depends which perspsctive you are looking at it from.
From the eagle point of view, he is looking to the left. |
i mean his other left  |
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How about this one Bob? What's the story on it? Is it real???
j/k
Seriously - it would be nice if there was a "lapel pin sticky" on this forum. |
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