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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking great with the new wheels!

On the tubing/body pass-thru, I'm doing something similar on my Deserter, except at the rear. Running the upper side tubes outside the bodywork and needed a way to pass from inside to outside of the fiberglass, just like your front firewall. I'm doing it similar, except using steel bushings between the sandwich plates. This way the plates bolt up tight steel to steel, the fiberglass does not get tightened (100%) between steel plates. I sized the bushings to allow rubber pads to be used between the fiberglass and sandwich plates, and when tightened down it compressed the rubber (and fiberglass) slightly before it's down to steel on steel contact. Maybe overkill?? I just didn't want anything crtitical to be relying on the fiberglass for full support.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jeff.

Awesome idea!! Just goes to show there is always other and better ideas to get the same results (I'm not saying mine was the best way).

I'm really stuck on the back with my build. I want all the bars inside the tub and I need to tie the back of the car into the inner tube work. My design has the tubes running parallel with each other and don't meet end to end like the front. I'm having a heck of a time thinking of a good way to go through the back fiberglass and tyeing the cage to the rear of the car. I figure I'll start on the front of the car and hopefully by the time I get to the back I'll have it all sorted out..... I hope.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell YEA!!! nice!!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL. I've really been thinking about chopping the front wind screen and going with the chopped look...... but I'm 6'3" and my head is well above the seat Sad
I had to lower the seats (they are bolted to the pan, no slider) just so I wouldn't be looking through the top frame of the windshield. I guess I could always "tilt" the seats some but I would have to cut the floor and have the seats as the lowest part of the pan. Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to take away from your thread Brent - but some ideas on body pass-thru.

Here's a shot of my chassis from last Summer, this is when I started tacking up the upper longitudinal support tubes and bracing. You can see at the rear of the upper tubes, aft of the roll bar, where they terminate and body pass-thru takes place:

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And a close-up of the pass-thru, note the bushings between the plates:

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I had to carefully fit the inner pass-thru supports from existing chassis out to the body with he body in place. With the angles involved, this took several trial and error fittings before they could be tacked in.

I wanted to get the side rails outside the bodywork to leave more room inside for seats. The GS locates the cockpit several inches further forward than the standard VW pan layout. As the chassis gets narrower as you go forward, interior cockpit width is at a premium!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not to take away from your thread Brent

No worries about that, thanks for the info. Pictures are worth a 1000 words as they say. I had a pretty good idea what you did, now seeing the brackets you did gets me thinking in a whole different direction. And that is what I needed!
Your frame looks wicked. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can finally resume my build now that I have me tube bender.
I'm enjoying this emencly..... that's because I haven't screwed up yet. Laughing
I'm going to try my plate design as is. If I hear too much creaking or wear on the fiberglass I will be able to easily modify the set up later.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glasser wrote:
LOL. I've really been thinking about chopping the front wind screen and going with the chopped look...... but I'm 6'3" and my head is well above the seat Sad
I had to lower the seats (they are bolted to the pan, no slider) just so I wouldn't be looking through the top frame of the windshield. I guess I could always "tilt" the seats some but I would have to cut the floor and have the seats as the lowest part of the pan. Confused


I wouldn't chop the windshield. I used to have taller seats and sat with my forehead over the windshild. All I can say is that we have some big insects in Alberta!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wouldn't chop the windshield. I used to have taller seats and sat with my forehead over the windshield. All I can say is that we have some big insects in Alberta!

Yah I hear ya. Before I lowed my seats I was in this situation. I put the window on and it almost looks chopped already. Not sure why, it is a standard height. I'm hoping with the cage it will help make it look lower like in Muzi's rendition.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did a little more this weekend...... then ran out of tube. I was sold two lengths of 1.75 Dia by mistake so will return them and get the 1.625.

I'm getting the software figured out....slowly. Did the first hoop and something didn't work out quite right but had extra material so was OK. The back hoop I left extra material and everything worked out perfectly. The extra material I added had to be cut off. Width has worked out perfectly every time.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brent, what size tires and rims....friggin perfect!!!!! In my best "Chico and the man voice"... Looking good, looking good!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing
Thanks bud.

245/60/R15s on the back mounted on an 8" wide rim.
145/65/R15s mounted on a 5" rim on the front (pushing the limits a bit.) The fronts are Smart Car tires pre 08 (In 08 they now have wider tires front and back).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MURZI wrote:
Brent, what size tires and rims....friggin perfect!!!!! In my best "Chico and the man voice"... Looking good, looking good!!!

X2 Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Surf.
While the back obviously has to come up a bit the front should be able to stay where it is. It's on the snubbers now in the front but will add a full tank of gas.. or the same weight as one, turn the adjusters so it just lifts off the snubber and weld with the adjusters in the lowest position (they are not welded in right now) and remove the snubers completly. Then I have all up adjustment from there.
I wonder if a full tank of gas vrs. an empty tank will change ride height?? I wouldn't think it would be much if it did.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the back bars done. Tied the cage into the front of the car and got some side impact bars in place. Still not sure if I like the side impact bars showing. One side of me says hid them (lower the back), the other side says show them if you got them.
The reason I went low on the side impact bars is I need all the room I can get for my legs. If I had the bar flush with the side of the buggy all the way across my legs would interfere with the steering wheel.
I still have a seat belt bar to run across behind the seats and a dash bar. I think I will also tie the rear bars back to the rear main hoop along the seat surface.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still plugging away. Rear cage complete.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tied the back end all together this weekend. Roll bar, shock towers, and wish bone.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lookin real good! I think you got the hang of that bender.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm digging the pink transmission mount Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gossamer wrote:
I'm digging the pink transmission mount Wink

Yea thats sweet Shocked Don't let my wife see that shit she already wants a pink sand rail. Rolling Eyes
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