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amishman Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2004 Posts: 3219 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Rear Drum brake removal |
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Friedpotatoes wrote: |
up to 63 you will need the 36mm tool
64 and on you will need 46mm tool |
So a torque dude 36mm will not work on 65 and up buses. Bummer. I have used my torque dude on my Thing to remove drums and wow how easy it was. I was hoping to use the same tool on my 67 bus as I need to do some brake work. I guess it is time to get a larger socket and some big old pipe.
Do they make a torque tool for the larger axle nuts?
tj _________________ tj (the Amishman)
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dstefun Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2002 Posts: 3338 Location: Sacratomato
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:44 am Post subject: Re: Rear Drum brake removal |
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amishman wrote: |
Do they make a torque tool for the larger axle nuts? |
You can make a 46mm adaptor for the 36mm torque tool with a 36mm nut welded to a 46mm socket. See the pix in this thread ....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=155573 |
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Aaron Samba Luddite
Joined: November 20, 2002 Posts: 1838 Location: WA
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: |
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I have used the drilling method before. Just pick a notch in the castle nut, drill a small hole thru the nut (towards the center of the bus). Place the tip of a sharp chisel in the outer edge of the hole and give it a wack. The nut should split and then come right off. Down side to doing it this way is you have got to come up with another nut. |
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deepseeman Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2004 Posts: 435 Location: san diego
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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So lets add to this delima. most of these suggestions are fine and dandy for a tranny still mounted in the bus. What about a tranny thats out of a bus. Im having a bitch of a time getting leverage and obviously the shaft still spins without the resistance of a motor. Any suggestions besides drilling? |
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Brian_1952 Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2005 Posts: 700
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: puller |
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I made this to get my drum off...works real good ..I got the idia how to make it from the real vw drum puller..I was going to make them but never got around to it.. _________________ (20-024785)Ambulance (20-037784)truck (20-035850)panel
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20279 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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deepseeman wrote: |
So lets add to this delima. most of these suggestions are fine and dandy for a tranny still mounted in the bus. What about a tranny thats out of a bus. Im having a bitch of a time getting leverage and obviously the shaft still spins without the resistance of a motor. Any suggestions besides drilling? |
Find a 3-4 foot chunk of 2x1 channel and drill a couple of holes in it to allow you to bolt it to the drum, using lug bolts. This will keep things from spinning while you try to get the nut off. I think this is what you were asking about. If not, ignore this post and move on. _________________ nothing |
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surferdudedav Samba Member
Joined: May 20, 2004 Posts: 517
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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get some pb spray and a propane torch... never lets me down..... |
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14271 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:06 am Post subject: Re: puller |
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Brian_Mccue wrote: |
I made this to get my drum off...works real good ..I got the idia how to make it from the real vw drum puller..I was going to make them but never got around to it.. |
How old is that picture or is that an old Pepsi can from the early 70's? Do you collect cans? Nice tool and welds. How did you make the cutouts? |
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rhiggin71 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2007 Posts: 8
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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I broke two Craftsman 1/2" drive breaker bars using a 4' cheater pipe. I finally had to have the kid at the corner shop take his impact to 'em which still took about 5 minutes (per side) of trigger to get 'em to come off.
Never needed a puller to get the drum off, tho. _________________ 1965 Kombi "Kishka" |
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j.pickens Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9791 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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rhiggin71 wrote: |
I broke two Craftsman 1/2" drive breaker bars using a 4' cheater pipe. I finally had to have the kid at the corner shop take his impact to 'em which still took about 5 minutes (per side) of trigger to get 'em to come off.
Never needed a puller to get the drum off, tho. |
Those swivel breaker bars really aren't made for this high torque application.
You need the kind which rides on a shaft, or a really heavy duty ratchet.
3/4" drive would be better as well.
or
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sconord Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2005 Posts: 704 Location: Dallas Texas
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Brake drum removal tool kit consists of 5 - one foot lengths of chain, one Wal-Mart bottle jack, 10 wheel lugs, one beetle drum and Now one happy customer.
What do you guy's think? |
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CFix Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2008 Posts: 26 Location: Bellingham WA
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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I think its great. does it work as well as I am hoping? |
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beatleeater Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 93 Location: vancouver wa
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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you're a freaking genius |
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arthurnugen Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 3081 Location: The PNW, where "going green" means rolling with moss.
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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sconord wrote: |
Brake drum removal tool kit consists of 5 - one foot lengths of chain, one Wal-Mart bottle jack, 10 wheel lugs, one beetle drum and Now one happy customer.
What do you guy's think? |
That rocks. _________________
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Lawyers don't deserve buses. |
zozo wrote: |
Don't worry too much. You can always trust a lawyer. |
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sconord Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2005 Posts: 704 Location: Dallas Texas
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:45 am Post subject: |
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Works perfectly!
Make sure your chains are all the same length. You have to get the setup in place, secure the jack to take up slack in the chains, let go, pump the jack and watch the drum slide off. As it was coming off, I tapped the drum with a hammer to help release the brake shoes that were stuck.
This was the cheapest and easiest puller made with parts that we all have laying around. |
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jeremyrockjock Samba Towbar Builder
Joined: January 01, 2002 Posts: 5008 Location: Richmond, Verjinya
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:56 am Post subject: |
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I've never been able to pump those bottle jacks on their side. Its a cool idea though no doubt. _________________ Why buy what you can build.
Step away from the fiberglass and no one gets hurt!! |
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sconord Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2005 Posts: 704 Location: Dallas Texas
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: |
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jeremyrockjock wrote: |
I've never been able to pump those bottle jacks on their side. Its a cool idea though no doubt. |
You have to have the pump and lever on the bottom. That way the hydrolic fluid goes to the pump. Look at the pics for what I mean. _________________
beatleeater wrote: |
you're a freaking genius |
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20279 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Here is what I use, now.
The bottom one I made right before I found the Snap-On version at a yard sale for $5. I used to borrow one from a mechanic friend of mine that was made for Ramblers. Now I have my own. _________________ nothing |
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jdamato Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2008 Posts: 24 Location: jacksonville fl
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: cant get drum off |
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i'm doing the brakes on my 1965 beetle, all has gone smooth except the left rear drum will not come off. ive tried everything possible and it will still not come off. ive put a wheel puller on it and torqued it up to 280 ft lbs. then while it was torqed on i heated it with an oxyacediline torche, it was red hot and would still not come off. ive whacked it from every angle, no luck. the drum is no longer useable, but i need a way to get it off the axle, i'm sure the splines are no good and i will need a new axle also. this really sucks does anybody have any advice |
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jdamato Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2008 Posts: 24 Location: jacksonville fl
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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buy an impact wrench |
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